If upgraded fuses I purchased were the SR Black. Upgraded to the SR Blue when they made them user friendly (immediately better without 72 hour break-in of the Blacks). My audio engineer friend and manufacturer of cables who has the same equipment as me, thought one better (if it can be made the same but cheaper is his motto) installed 5 amp circuit breakers instead of buying 8 amp SR blue fuses for our amps. About the same result but his was infinitely less expensive. Until I demonstrated a littlefuse versus the SR Blue, he didn't believe it.
So, a huge Yes on fuses. Plus, they are directional from the start, no waiting needed to hear the difference. |
P.S. The same naysayers and trolls are affecting this forum as the SR Red/Black/Blue forums. Too bad. Audiophiles should try the fuses before making up their mind. |
Elizabeth, I use the Walker Talisman, an expensive pair of magnets but easy to use, on every CD and DVD I play. The results are obvious when the disc has been played through and magnetism adheres to it. I also use it on LPs but I'm lazy about that since it takes longer to sweep the record on and off motions 5 times to complete the demagnetization. Thanks for your informed comments. It's a big relief from the naysayers. |
mpheaven I don't know which type of circuit breaker my friend used in his amps. I've tried several low end brand fuses while I waited for the SR Black. The Black was superior even without breaking in (72 hours). The SR Blue was superior immediately upon insertion and got better over time, not as dramatically but better overall. I have another pair of the same amps built 10 years ago that need upgrading. I will install the circuit breakers in them. I will be able to then compare the SR Blue and circuit breaker amps head to head. I bet they will be close. |
As to new or old stock fuses by Littlefuse and Buss, I couldn't tell the difference. Georgehifi always says the old fuse oxidized and is weaker than a new fuse. Well, I tried new in place of old (15+ year old) stock fuses and I couldn't tell the difference. |
I don't know the vintage of the new Littlefuse and Buss fuse. They may have been several years old sitting in my drawer. I'm sure you will say that they should have been newly made to sound better. You'll write anything to discredit me. |
Yes, I tried it in both directions and neither sounded good. Maybe if I applied some Total Contact it would have sounded better but why waste a good product on a mediocre product (mediocre for audio purposes, excellent for electrical safety purposes). |
The thread is alive but the discussion is closed. Check for yourself and see if you can post. I can't, it states discussion is closed. |
Apparently, the The new Synergistic Research BLUE fuses .... discussion has been closed by the moderator. Too acrimonious and slanderous for me anyway. The assertions by others who know better than me is that 75,000 after market audiophile fuses have been sold. That's a lot fuses. My friends and I have all obtained their fuses in the past two years which may mean that sale of fuses is accelerating.
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This is the last postings on that forum. Notice the bottom statement from the moderator. Maybe I'm wrong but it appears correct.
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Wolf, George and gdhal-Not funny and just troublemakers. Ruins the forums they inhabit. |
Go to China and Russia and see how much freedom they have and how they bully their own people as well as people all around the world (well, mostly Russia does that, China buys out foreign country interests). Trump may threaten but Russia acts surreptitiously to install itself wherever it wants to. It’s in Lebanon and Syria as well as Crimea and parts of Ukraine. Eastern Europe is afraid of Russia, not of the U.S.
As I've previously stated here and in the prior thread, audiophile fuses are a gift. |
I agree that no fuse is the best for sound but luckily, the SR Blue fuse sounds really similar to my friends’ identical amps but for his use of circuit breakers in place of the fuses. |
Wow. I bet trolls are writing really nasty personal rants against me. Thanks moderators.
I joke about SR "upgrading" and changing their top of the line tweaks, but it’s all for the better. I am glad I purchased the Atmosphere XL4 rather than an FEQ or lower model for my large listening room. Some of my SR items have been "upgraded" once (red to black duplex) or never since their inception (the Blackbox). I just use the SR red duplexes now for my video system instead.
I am especially pleased that the SR blue fuse sounds great immediately as opposed to the tedious 72 hour wait until the SR black fuse sounded acceptable and good (it had a negative effect for about 60 hours). If a purple haze fuse is the next "upgrade" but takes many hours to appreciate, I’ll pass. If it costs $200+, I’ll probably pass as well. I have my limits to how long I will wait and how much I will spend on a fuse. I have not changed my 4 rail fuses in my EAR Acute CD player for the reason it will take too much effort to evaluate the directionality of each fuse versus the other fuses (too many possibilities) and just getting into the player is a pain. I only open it up once annually to clean the lens. |
I would prefer if manufacturers used circuit breakers instead of fuses. My 2 phono stages and 2 of 3 pre-amps are unfused. Only my CD players and amps are fused. I've heard my amps with SR blue fuses and the same amps with circuit breakers instead and they sounded very similar, couldn't choose what the differences were other maybe than dynamics were better with circuit breaker amps.
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kosst - I was an attorney (Southwestern 79') and for 32 years, a commercial real estate appraiser. I had to extract from the collected data an opinion of value or utility of the property (highest and best use). I consider my former profession to be a blend of science and art (as does the national Foundation for Real Estate Appraisal). One can be a great collector of data and have an inability to extract the results without both education and a artful skill.
I consider audio reproduction the same way.
Especially, Synergistic Research products. My SR audio provider and the two engineers at SR who I converse with unequivocally state that some of their products require an "artful" posititioning to achieve a beneficial audio effect. These include their room treatments in particular.
As to SR duplexes and fuses, installed correctly, they are quite obvious in their audio reproduction benefit. As one schooled in empirical thought, I find that SR duplexes and fuses are obviously superior to standard (low cost and typical) duplexes and fuses used for any and all electrical functioning purposes they are manufactured for. I also greatly benefit from the SR HFT products allowing me relieve my walls of all sorts of absorption and diffusion paneling.
The most obvious reason why the SR fuse is superior (or a circuit breaker) to a standard cheap fuse is that they conduct electricity better through a larger surface area (and possibly due to better/efficient contact materials). The circuit breaker in my friends amp certainly has a larger conductor than the standard 5 amp fuse. It sounds superior to the cheap fuse and sounds about the same as an SR blue fuse. |
I love Soupy Sales (Pooky was a lion and Hippy was a hippo-no squirrels). I have a nice collection of his 60’ shows and the complete 77-78’ shows. My wife prefers when we watch Buster Keaton, Harold Lloyd and Charley Chase. I add Laurel & Hardy and Charley Chaplin to the mix with a wide assortment of other silent comedians and clowns.
Back to the topic, thank you Geoff for your clear stated comments concerning using our five senses. Primitive man did not have any scientific instruments to determine outcomes. He/she used their senses to make decisions.
Gdal-I was not offered the stupid blind test; however, I can afford it but why would I bother since I already know how superior the SR blue and circuit breakers are to cheap fuses. The same with fuse directionality. It’s so obvious. Unless you cannot hear the difference in polarity in high end gear using polarized A/C cords (or on some recordings/speaker wiring mixup) then you won’t be able to determine fuse directionality either. It’s either in or out of phase.
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I've heard that NOS tubes used methods of fabrication which exposed workers to environmental hazards as the reason for either government or insurance reasons for discontinuing certain metals use in tube manufacturing. Certain metals, combinations and/or utilization may have been potential or real danger.
Also, tube fabrication was a secret art which manufacturers held close to the vest to gain on their competition. That art is lost now. This reminds me of the government banning virgin vinyl manufacturing in the U.S. for environmental reasons decades ago (pressing virgin vinyl is okay).
Another issue as to why there is more concern with power regulation today is the change in the power received in our homes. Back in the 1940's to 1960's, power was relatively uncontaminated by RF and EMI. We had radio and television but no digital signals. Today, are airwaves are so polluted that our equipment requires extensive power regulation measures to purify it for our audio use.
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