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Walker Audio Extreme SST

I don't believe it... I friggin' well don't believe it... But I hear it. Ann hears it.

Lloyd's new Extreme SST is yet another step better than the original SST (Super Silver Treatment contact enhancer).

This weekend was devoted to system tweaking. A "minor" turntable update that turned out to be HUGE, followed by experimentation with Walker Audio's new Extreme SST.

Some months ago we'd already used the original SST on our interconnects and speaker cables: WOW! The increase in resolution and clarity was palpable. Everything you may have read about how great this stuff is is absolutely true. Now Lloyd comes out with Extreme SST, which he says is "taking SST to a new level of wow!" So, okay, we'll try it. Lloyd's recommendations have a perfect track record in this household for being right on the money: I always start somewhat skeptical, only to be astonished yet again by that wizard of audio. This weekend's venture was to prove to be yet another trip down that path.

So, first a critical listening session with three system challenging music selections we enjoy. Then, all the old SST gets removed (it wipes right off with an isopropyl alcohol soaked Q-tip), then these same connections get treated with Extreme SST. Controlled test here: nothing else changed, no new connections treated, just the original connections for interconnects and speaker cables. Then we play two hours worth of music to let everything break in again before listening.

Now we sit down to play the three music selections we listened to at the outset of the process: the last few minutes of Stravinsky's Firebird (Dorati, Mercury/Classic Records), the very end of Mendelssohn's Symphony 3 (Scottish Symphony) (Maag, Decca/Speakers Corner), and the very beginning of Shostakovich String Quartet No. 8 (Borodin Qt, Decca/Speakers Corner). No talking: write down your impressions separately, compare only after all the music selections are over.

And when we share our written comments the results are virtually identical. Ann: "increased resolution, increased clarity." Rush: "increased clarity, resolution and staging specificity, somewhat cleaner leading edges to transients."

And this is on top of what the ORIGINAL SST delivered!

So what next? What else can you expect: the rest of the Sunday spent treating with Extreme SST every previously untreated connection, which includes phono cartridge pins, power cord connections, fuses, and every tube pin in this entire system (that's a lot of tubes here). Results: after two hours I'm beginning to get a sense of a system that sounds like the windows have been newly washed for dramatically improved clarity. It will take another several hours for the SST on the cartridge pins to fully break in, so even more will come.

Should you get Extreme SST? I dunno if it will be worth the extra cost to you over the original version. BUT YOU OWE IT TO YOURSELF TO USE ONE OR THE OTHER IN YOUR SYSTEM! The improvement SST provides is remarkable and should be part of every audiophiles system set-up procedure.
http://www.walkeraudio.com/sst.htm

For the other skeptics among us, here are links to other people's reviews and thoughts about Walker Audio's original SST:
Positive Feedback's Brutus Award and full review (David Robinson)...
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue16/brutus04dr.htm
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue13/walkeraudiosst.htm
6moons.com Blue Moon Award (Srajan Ebaen)...
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/walker3/SST.html
Stereo Times (Clement Perry)...
http://www.stereotimes.com/acc092704.shtm
Enjoy the Music (Bill Gaw)...
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/viewpoint/0304/aachapter54.htm
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rushton OP
2,445 posts
 
Ncarv and Tvad, just "for the record" the Walker Audio SST is a unique formulation, it is manufactured in-house by Walker Audio and it is not a repackaging of anything else. As to the contents, as stated on the Walker Audio web site about Extreme SST:
We start with ultra-pure silver that is specially processed and made into long micro-flakes. The silver flake is subjected to a deep immersion cryogenic treatment and then suspended in an organic fluid chosen for its dielectric and temperature characteristics.
http://www.walkeraudio.com/sst.htm
Cheers,
listener57
730 posts
 
I have found the positive effects mentioned above in my own system, using the original Walker Audio SST, and such a tiny amount is needed for coating connections that 98% of the jar contents remaining. Mint condition box, jar, and special supplied applicators available.
If anyone wants to buy my "virtually new" setup, so that I can move on up to the newer Extreme SST, happy to let it go for $53, delivered in USA.
This product really does confuse the issue of how much more unsuspected or potential sound quality is available from a particular brand of power cord, interconnect, or speaker cable. So far, has only increased listening pleasure with any contact I have coated.
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rushton OP
2,445 posts
 
Jtinn, a reasonable caution. SST is highly conductive. I encourage anyone trying it to read carefully Walker Audio's cautions about how to apply SST. A VERY light painting of the surface is all that is required, don't apply it like a paste.

Mprime, you raise good points we should all be cognizant of in this hobby of ours. I certainly take no offense in you raising them, because they are very pertinent. Placebo effect is real, and we are all prone to hearing what we want or expect to hear from time to time. This is the reason my listening partner/spouse and I agreed to write down our impressions of what we were hearing and only sharing those impressions after we'd finished; and those written comments are what I shared above. That doesn't mean we weren't both fooling ourselves, but you'd need to meet my no nonsense spouse to understand why I don't think that was the case! :-)

What I find so interesting about many of Walker Audio's products is that so many who share this hobby have heard precisely the same changes in our systems when applying many of his recommended modifications/tweaks.

One final thought, it's easy to try one of Walker Audio's products in your system with no financial risk: if something you buy from Walker Audio doesn't work for you, send it back within 30 days for a full refund, less shipping. It's that simple to try it for yourself and see whether you think it's a real improvement or a "psycho-acoustic" event.
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peaks
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yes... Tvad is correct. Artic silver is for helping heat transfer between CPU and the Heat Sink Unit(HSU) in your computer.
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ncarv
983 posts
 
I'd be interested to hear (pun intended?) how it compares to this:

http://www.arcticsilver.com/

at $6.00 a tube.

Arctic Silver has been proven to contain real silver. Many others do not. I do not have information about the contents of Walker SST.
jtinn
1,124 posts
 
I would approach using this product with EXTREME caution.

There is an A'gon member that blew his amps and speakers twice after using this product. He never used it following and never had any other problems.
mprime
92 posts
 
Okay, this is my primary thought:

I'd love to *measure* the psycho-acoustical impact of SST.

I know Rushton to be one of the more responsible posters on the 'gon. I also know these tweaks do make a difference. But when I read:

"...after two hours I'm beginning to get a sense of a system that sounds like the windows have been newly washed for dramatically improved clarity."

I think: I've heard this before....

Then when I attach a catch phrase to a manufacture statement like:

"SST's ultra-pure micro-flaked silver treated with a special deep immersion cryogenic treatment. Amazing!"

I ask: how far a jump is it to attach a stock phrase to a suggested improvement? And even stipulating the fact that SST offers improvement, is it that dramatic? Enough to pay $150?

There is little doubt the topic of psycho-acoustics has been discussed here *many* times. A part of the discussions always swings over to double blind testing, and of course, the problems with such methods. Still, there is ample evidence that we are creatures prone to exaggerate facts, and in this case, such exaggeration costs $150 dollars.

Now, there's no questioning Walker's commitment to audio, and attempting to bring products to the market which increase our pleasure. Yet it is also clear that Walker's products fetch a huge price premium, thus, the attempt to reconcile the value of that cost is warranted (I offer Walker Vivid v. Shinola as an example). Therefore, I feel one is justified in bringing this topic up - on this thread - and the raising of this issue is not trolling or flame-bait or any other destructive activity.

In other words: I'd like to discuss this.

Not trash Rushton, SST, or me :-)

Sincerely,

Lee
oneprof
147 posts
 
Rushton, I have to agree with you. I had everything coated with the original SST, then about a month ago I replaced it with extreme SST, and yes, it is better, does even more than the original. I sent it to a buddy of mine to try, don't think he's used it yet though.
rtn1
535 posts
 
I also applied Extreme SST this weekend. As I plugged the main powercord in and fire came out of the outlet, I knew that this was going to be interesting. (Make sure everything is off when you plug it in!)

I have not tried the originial version, but I'd agree with what you say. It will take several days for my equipment to break-in after unplugging everything. Immediately I noticed an increase in detail. The soundstage became more focused, the background became blacker, the decay of the instruments more apparent, sound of the instrument was richer, and an increase in the ambience of the venue. There was also a little more leanness, but I suspect this will go away once the equipment is on for several days.

I'd say that this is a worthwhile tweak, particularly when factoring the price. I've also been very happy with Walker's Vivid Enhancer, and apply it to all my CDs to a subtle but worthwhile improvement.

Rob
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raytheprinter
1,234 posts
 
hello Rushton,you have convinced me to give SST a try,,
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