For my money, my B&K ST 1400 II is the tops. I can't afford stuff from McIntosh and Sunfire. But the B&K is sweet and for the money, it's fantastic. |
Jeff Rowland with out a doubt. I have owned 4 different Rowland amps over the last 11 years and nothing i have heard touches them. I have taken home for weeks Reference Levinsons, Krells and even the Boulder and the FM Accoustics super expensive amps. The back up on the rare occasion in which it was needed was superb. |
Not sure what the best amp is. I wonder if anyone has done any double blind tests with the system set up to provide identical sound levels? I suspect that amps with similar noise floors and rated outputs will sound the same. |
DOS EQUIS XX! I vote for! Quote:Crafted by a German brewmaster in Mexico in 1897...Unquote! Ok it is German, but you asked the best....ooops this is wrong "tread"! |
I just meant that my KAV-250a was the best for the money ($2100 used) that I've heard, NOT that it was the best in the world! The Clayton monoblocks probably are better, if you don't need 500 watts/channel into 4 ohms. I'd like to hear the Claytons, and also the Wolcott tube amps, sometime. I would want to compare the Wolcotts in particular to the FPB 350 monoblocks. And please continue your bellyaching about me, there's not nearly enough of that going on already... |
Both of you, Audioears AND Carl, belong in a private site where you won't be ruining a perfectly legitimate discussion. Audioears, we get the point that you prefer Bryston, and they do make excellent products. I own a BP-25 preamp. Carl, anyone who has ever read an Audiogon discussion knows that you are a Krell fanatic. I personally don't care for their products, and I do not understand how you can continue to insist that they are the BEST amplifiers if your hearing is anywhere nearly as good as you constantly brag it is. Now please stop this childish hurling of insults, which is growing quite tiresome, and get back to the original topic. I believe Clayton makes some of the best valued, best sounding SS amps at any price level. They sound so different from any other SS I've ever heard. I'm sure there are better, especially tubed, but not that I've heard. |
You're the adolescent jerk who started all this. How old are you, 13? |
In the interest of every normal person at this site I will no longer engage in "Little Man Carl's" adolescent bombastic, dinkflunk correspondence. It only took a very short time for me to be sickened by you Little Man Carl... Why not go on some adolescent jerkwater site,,, who knows you may be a hit there Little Man. |
Got any pictures of your mother naked? Wanna buy some? The only thing that's "little" about me is my tolerance of pieces of garbage like you. I can hear better than you and everyone you've ever met, and I could give a shit what you think about anything. Please eat hot death... |
Carl... this isn't an audi forum its a audio forum. Crazy fished eyed fool. Do you play a banjo in the movie Deliverence? Besides my country I would gladly put my system, house, cars, women, you name it against yours. I probably even have more american money than you do in my wallet right now. I let you in on a little secret Carl.... The Canadian audio manufacturers price there products the same in U.S. dollars as in Canadian dollars, and it is still a bargain for you. U.S. manufacturers have huge margins, they spend less on R&D and they try and market the products to the mass public who are the least demanding in the G7 countries as far as audio quality of sound. U.S. products have the most lights and toys. It is the U.S. that is blocking the progression of DvD audio, and other technology that has been on the shelf for years. These are facts little man as were the questions about amps that you cannot respond to. But lets have a shoot out since you want to see if my system will be chewed out. Not your make believe system either. I dont spend any time here so you must have alot of friends here I am sure that align themselve to you like a magnet.... gheh heh heh heh ..... I'd love to sit here and waste my life like you Carl but I have a great system that I spend my time with instead ahh ha ha ha ha ha ha Go tie a pork chop around your system so at least your dog will enjoy it... ahhh ha ha ha |
Boys,Boys.Behave now om mommy will take your stereos away.The BEST U.S. amp EVER made is the Dynaco ST-70.It may not sound the best or look the best or cost the most but this baby has soul!! Why do you think there are more Dynas in the world then any other amp.Carl,if you trash my beloved Dyna, I will............... |
The UN is very good at stealing money from the international monetary fund, and wasting it, and then asking for more. It's a post WW II institution that has seen its glory days come and gone. |
Canada is a much better country than the US, just ask the united Nation, we've beat you in every category in the last 2 years. |
Canada isn't even a real country, it's just our backyard! My system would handily chew yours up, and spit it out. When God was handing out auditory canals, you couldn't hear his instructions correctly, and bent over instead! It has since become the thing you love doing the most! American audiphiles are convulsing with laughter at your snivelling, pathetic little moronic comments. Mua hah hah hah hah... |
heh heh heh .... thats wonderbar .... and do you have any other intellectual comments to make Carl? I trust you purchased the MIT cable.... thats hilarious.... I am falling off my chair..... I hope it was the 5g's one.... eh hah hah hah Back to the topic.... U.S. Amp... hmmm compared to Bryston... which is Canadian... Which U.S. built amp can beat Brystons warranty? Which U.S. built amp can beat the resale value of Bryston? Which U.S. built amp has a lower budget for advertising? Which U.S. amp manufacturer has lower profit margins? Which U.S. amp can rival the 7B for price/performance? Aren't you U.S. citizens proud that you get to live right next to us Canadians? |
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To answer your question.... Bryston 7B will whoop any Krell. As far as the MIT lovers.... they are actually made out of peoples garage. I compared MIT cables to regular radio shack cables and the radio shack cables crushed the MIT ones. I guess better quality control in favour of Radio Shack. If you don't believe me .... go to the avsforum.com and look in the audio thread. |
wrong questıon.they are many best amps.depends your system. synergy!!!!!!!BUT HOW ABOUT GOLMUND 29.4 WIHT GOLDMUND PRE |
I'll have to go with the rara Krell KSA 150B. Fabulous low end with the capacity to re-create a mid-upper octave image as accurately as I have heard. A true masterpiece of audio engineering. |
You should try Ayre V-1 or V-3, more return with lower investment. |
What about Monarchy Audio amplifiers? (SA 100 Deluxe and SA 70 monoblocks, Class A power). Their reviewers claim that they are the best amps for the money out there. Check out the Soundstage reviews, or reviews at audioreview.com. |
One of the best amps we have EVER heard are from MUSE. Best of all, look at the prices and build quality/quality of parts used (they use better parts than you will find in almost ANYTHING). Mono blocks for $4K? Incredible deal. BTW, I have owned amps form every company mentioned on this post. What do I own now? Two Muse model one-hundred series two (vertically bi-amping Dunlavy Altha's). |
Nothing beats MIT. People have sat me down in front of very expensive systems with great gear but I almost wanted to laugh. I could not believe how crappy it sounded without MIT wires. The soundstage sucked. Bloated and undefined! It just didn't have the dynamics or 3D presentation like I'm used to with MIT products. I just don't understand how people can live with anything else. Did lux say MIT wire voids the warranty on spectral amps? |
Who are you, Harry Pearson's wetnurse? He's been wrong on several occasions, what of it? I still like him. Nobody's right all the time, and I admit when I'm wrong...do you? Nordost cabling is very dynamically laid back, and no better in any other way, when compared to MIT's best cables. Pearson just doesn't want to admit that he doesn't like handling heavy network boxes in a system that must change on a daily basis, in order to continue the review process. Doesn't mean they sound better at all. Food for thought... |
You have to wonder what makes Carl so on edge and aggressive. Maybe it comes from listening to Krell amps equipped with MIT cables. Oh, by the way, Carl, if you are calling the previous responder a moron, you are also calling Harry Pearson a moron. If you really wish to do that, why don't you come out and post that straight up. |
MIT cables are superior to everything, so you're the moron. |
PREVIOUSLY POSTED OF THIS TOPIC AS UNDERDRESSED. LATEST GENERATION OF SPECTERAL AMPLIFIERS UNINFORMLY THE BEST OF THE U.S. CROP. DMA150MKII ON M-360 BOARDS IS A FUTHER EXTENSION OF THEIR CURRENT SERIES AND CONTINUES TO BLUR THE LINES BETWEEN THE BEST OF SOLID STATE AND TUBES. IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH HARRY PEARSON, IF YOU CAN AFFORD THE LOSS DO NOT USE MIT CABLES - VOIDS THE WARRANTY - RICK IS A MORON. ENOUGH SAID. AS A POINT OF REFERENCE, WE USE OUR OWN AMPS AND HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN BY RECOMMENDING SPECTERAL AMPS. ANS bY |
Spectral...Spectral...Spectral. If your reading this Mr. Fryer and Mr Johnson bring back an updated DMA-50 and DMC-6 ok?? Better yet combine them into a compact integrated!! Anybody have a MS-ONE preamp for sale??? |
Carl, I will let you know his details when I can - but I am going off to my Fiji abode for the next two weeks, so I will do it when I get back. |
Sounds interesting. I couldn't buy one of those speakers right now (if he sells them), but it'd be interesting to converse with him alright. |
FYI Carl. The fruit is called a Kiwifruit in this country. It is just for people in strange foreign lands (like yourself) that we felt the need to make the spelling easier. A Kiwi is a flightless bird, but the word is also used to describe New Zealanders (as in Yank to describe all you from USA), as well as our national Rugby League team (a Rugby Union man myself). Yes I do know the speaker designer gentleman to whom you refer, but not directly. If you really want to talk to him I can find out his details for you. If my memory serves me right he also makes a thumping great turntable that one of those frigates might come in useful for (honestly cannot think of any other use for them), and also has invented a transparent device for mating tube amplifiers with low impedence speakers. Apparently the modification is made directly to the speaker. |
Threshold SA/1's,(mono-blocks) modified to balance configuration. This is when both Nelson Pass and Threshold were at their pinnacle. These amps have everything, beauty, sweetness mids and silky highs. Tremendous bottom end and depth. If you find a pair, buy them. Especially if they were modified by Threshold, to balance configuration. |
Incidentally, red-fruit-guy, do you know the guy that built the cylindrical arrayed "full range" ribbon speaker that was footnoted in an issue of HFN&RR about 2 years ago? (That's where I saw it, anyway.) It was a prototype, and he used like four hundred Neodymium magnets. HE WAS FROM NEW ZEALAND. (BTW, my grandparents once vacationed there, it'd probably be a nice place if it weren't for fruit people like you.) Anyhow, it intrigued my speaker design sensibilities. Perhaps you could borrow an Australian Navy friggett, and bring me a pair of those speakers to try...You wouldn't need fuel, just stand on the bow, face backwards, and start talking about whatever you talk about down there (how stupid we yanks are, etc.)...heh heh. G'Day, mate... |
We'll borrow Australia's - we're not proud! |
Eat hot death! You and who's army, New Zealand's? |
If we are competing for best blowhard now Carl - I shall enter by suggesting "the best one is a dead one". Try a Kiwi amp! |
If we are competing for best blowhard now Carl - I shall enter by suggesting "the best one is a dead one". Try a Kiwi amp! |
Kacz, you have stolen the championship for being the biggest blowhard on this site, from me. Looks like you can't take the pressure, though. How old are you, 17? |
Oh yeah. I vote for spectral for great tone and amazing transparency, speed, imaging, and air. |
That was cool. everybody just kept posting right past carls prior post. Why do we have to keep rebuking you carl? Yes you have a good point but if we get enough people casting their vote then we can see a patern as to what the largest number of people like. Thereby narrowing the bad buy factor. And can give someone a good idea of where to start. And if they explain why they like it then we will have a good idea of it's characteristics. It just helps to point the way. But dude Wus up with just wanting american amps? |
Which Krell do you think the 7B beats? |
Spectral DMA 360, the best solid-state amp in this world. |
Canada is about to invade and take over the U.S. so here goes. Bryston 7b's I would put against most U.S amps.... especially the Krell. I did enjoy the levinson 33h's better than the Bryston so I guess they would be my favorite if I was Bill Gates and didn't know what to do with all that money, and even if I did have all that dough I wouldn't pay the difference. 4x the cost for about 5% improvement at most. It kind of also depends on what speakers you mate with the amplifier doesn't it. At least for my ears. |
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to not so scott--ai agree about the bedini 25/25, a reeally great amp for quads. once yu identify the silvery compressed top in the zilla, its over. its like realizing what wow and flutter are all about. still i prefer TTs to 44.1 . as for musicians=====live or ded? ellington, miles. |
to not so scott--ai agree about the bedini 25/25, a reeally great amp for quads. once yu identify the silvery compressed top in the zilla, its over. its like realizing what wow and flutter are all about. still i prefer TTs to 44.1 . as for musicians=====live or ded? ellington, miles. |
Can the Sierra Denali IN monoblocks be that far ahead of the solid-state competition? Has anyone else heard these? |
Some interesting leads. But I've been thru a LOT of solid state amps (Krell, Rowland, Levison, Pass, Bryston...) but the ones that I keep coming back to on a musical basis are : For the money : The humble little Forte 4a and Money be damned : Reference Line Silver Signature There were only about 70 of the Reference Line units made but they are the most natural, grain free, flowing amp I've ever had and are outright steals on the used market when they do surface. They are still serviced and upgraded thru Scott Dixon. His number and E-mail address can be found under Reference Line in the Manufacturers list here in Audiogon. The Forte 4a actually sounds quite similar (tube like) thru the midrange and is marveloulsy dynamic & punchy. |
TO PHIL "ICERAVEN": I say Krell makes the best amps (and I'm NOT ALONE), but I'm not sure which model is the best price/performance value (if there's no limit on the money spent)...not that Brian cared to be that specific in his original question...YOU SEEM TO BE TAKING AN AWFULLY LONG TIME TO DECIDE, SINCE THIS POST IS A YEAR OLD. You have to try for yourself, because there'll never be concensus. JUST TAKE THE PLUNGE, AND STOP LOOKING FOR APPROVAL FROM STRANGERS ALREADY!! I mean, these discussion forums work for specific system aspects, BUT ASKING TO SUGGEST AN ENTIRE SYSTEM IS JUST PLAIN SILLY AND WRONGMINDED! It'll always be a subjective decision by the individual who'll be using the system, and if he's a real audiophile, HE'LL NEVER BE TOTALLY SATISFIED ANYWAY! That's what the hobby is about, THE JOURNEY TO THE MUSIC, not the destination. That's pretty much what ALL HOBBIES are about, "the process". GUYS WHO LOOK TO THEIR DEALERS OR BUDDIES FOR APPROVAL, ESPECIALLY TO SUGGEST AN ENTIRE SYSTEM, ARE TOTAL WUSSES! Use your own ears, or you'll never be happy. I SHOULD POST THE QUESTION: "Is it important to listen to your system, and make your own decisions?" That's about as intelligent as asking what the best solid state amp is... |
Wo...Wo..Woh! Fellow audiophiles, don't you think you have to tell us your complete equipment list. Don't get me wrong, all SSAmps mentioned are all great stuff for any price. But the amp is only one vital link in any audiophile's dream system; please tell us the rest of the system & price, some did. I need to know before decide a first step into hi-end (deep end?)audio. Thanks to all, phil. |
