Von Schweikert VR-4,Jr.

These aren't entry level -- he has the vr1 and vr2 which also sound incredible at their price

then of course he has the vr11 I think $100k plus some change

ok compared to that the Utopia is a entry level speaker lol

Can't comment on the show but I bought these. And they are unbeleivable for there size and price point.

Elybry, Just like the manual says, don't make any critical judgements until they have 200 hours on them. These speakers need full break in. Until then they do not sound all that great. After about 100 hours the magic started happening. So you have a lot to look forward to!!

Jack is right.

You have a lot to look forward to. But save yourself the misery and break them in before trying to do too much. I spent way too much time on placement because they weren't broken in yet. So I really couldn't judge the best location by the sound.

Remember the 200+ hours mean "loud" music (don't let them clip). The owners manual has a procedure that helps keep the sound down by facing each other. It works.

Enjoy, you've made a great speaker choice, there's no arguing that.

Rob

Sedona, The computer you are typing on was made in China as well as all the components inside. You still purchased it... I could go on and on about what you have that came from China - so unless you are Omish good luck trying to make a real moral stance.

Quality is a non issue, as these speakers are as solid as any I have owned, if not more so.

So, not sure what them being made in China has to do with it.

The vr4 jr for my taste are better than the totem's in top to bottom, with no wholes they are much better than their price point as stated above.

The Maggies will sound thin in comparison.

At least, give the vr4 jr an audition to avoid later regret if you buy something else.

Good Luck,
Rob

I think all of your responses were very factual and mature (not always the case). I used to work at Cadence Design Systems - One of the top EDA software companies, so you are right about most of the chip designers and foundries not being in China. My point in making my general statement was that not buying Von Schweikert speakers will not make a bit of difference in toppling communism in China. Especially, since we are not all driving Fords and Chevys, and we all have electronic and other items made in China -- It’s unavoidable.

But how can I argue when your hearts are in the right place. That’s really what counts whether it makes much difference or not.

I am biwiring, haven't compared it to single runs, but I think the most significant change in sound (and should be almost mandatory) is adding lead shot and of course, decoupling from the floor. I bent the supplied spikes all up, and bought more sturdy ones. But the difference was huge.

I have heard that biwiring makes a significant difference but haven't experienced it myself.

I am still trying to figure out the rear ambiance driver setting. I've been messing with it and it sounds good in different ways in different positions.

Abruse. You should shop at a new place. Obviously an idiot works there and Lead shot and break in make a huge difference. Are you sure you weren't at curcuit city?

Just like it says in the manual "if it doesn't give you goosebumps, the set up is less than optimal" don't blame the speakers they need proper setup to sound right.

Rob

Rodney. You answered your own question. Yes mids will become more fluid, bass less bloated more extended. highs less bright. You will start noticing better sound mostly at about 100 hours on. But to reach their prime a minimum of 200 hours but probably more.

Good info on your post about China USA issues people are having.

Rob

It comes with the speaker but a set of bi-wire cables will sound MUCH better.

Rob