Vinyl that is impossible to find


Our Time In Eden 10,000 Maniacs

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Showing 2 responses by whart

I have been buying obscure (and sometimes very desirable) records for years. Short of the FMU show in NY and one year at the Austin record show (still have not made it to the famous show in the Netherlands), almost never find this stuff in record bins. Discogs usually, sometimes, private sites of dealers. Condition is key, and grading these days is loose. I find certain vendors who I will tap into til the vein runs dry or their prices get nuts. There are different vendors who specialize in different genres- for some years, I was buying up OGs of spiritual jazz until that got to be crazy money, especially for the private label stuff. Ditto on the OG Vertigo Swirls, particularly from the UK. The market is still high despite general economy depending on what you are looking for. I've slowed way down in buying b/c of this- and some of the records were simply hard to find- e.g. the OG of Alice Coltrane's Ptah had not been reissued after 1974 until a recent reissue pulled from a digital master. It took me a few years back when to find a clean original though it wasn't "rare" as such- an Impulse release. 

Best approach is dialog with seller unless you know them. Get a sense of what they know, what their standards are, right to return (I hate returning records and explain that). We are talking about some records that now sell in the 4 figures, but I bought them before they hit those prices. Good luck, the hunt is part of the fun. 

@chrisoshea posted:-"Let’s all consider retiring the term "spiritual jazz" ...ALL good jazz is spiritual."

@foggyus91posted: - "totally agree, blues too!"

Chris- I think I’m the only person on this thread that used the term "spiritual jazz"- which is a loosely defined subgenre for that era in the late ’60s and early ’70s when elements of free jazz merged with Eastern influences during the Black Power movement, reflected in works like those of Pharaoh Sanders, a lot of the output on Strata-East and many small or private label "one and dones" from the likes of Milt Ward and Jothan Callins, or bodies of work from Horace Tapscott and others, mostly claiming "A Love Supreme" as an antecedent or inspiration. 

I’m open to any categorization to help define this era- what do you suggest? All of it as jazz? It really isn’t "free jazz" in many cases and certainly isn’t "straight ahead" and defines a period of cultural change. 

Foggy- what would you use to describe the music that came out of the delta, later electrified in Chicago, used as inspiration by the UK rockers in the mid-’60s to bring back our own native form of work song /lament in the form of blues-rock and is still a recognized genre despite changes over the decades?

In a sense, all music has certain elements in common, but even musicologists use genre categories as a short hand despite strands of origin that may go deeper. I ask out of intellectual curiosity, not pique. 

Bill