Vintage Japanese DD Consult and Suggestions Please


A little over five years ago, I worked with Chris Harban at Woodsong Audio to craft a bespoke Garrard 301 for me and my my vinyl collection. I had previously had a Dual of some model followed by a Thorens TD 160 with a nice Ortofon Black MM cart. The 301 was completely restored featuring a heavy mahogany plinth, Ortofon AS 309S tonearm, and Ortofon SPU head. I have completely blown away with how this table has sounded and looked. The sound was huge, rich, and detailed...everything that I heard that idle drives from this era should sound.

Unfortunately, some family health matters have forced me to liquidate some much revered audio gear, and recently placed my Garrard 301 up for sale. I do not wish to be without a way to continue to enjoy my collection and would somehow like to come as close to the performance of the 301 for around $2500 or so. 

My considerations (thus far)for this change are as follows,

Denon DP80

Technics SP10 Mk 2 or 3

Technics SL 1000 Mk 2

Luxman PD 444

As you can see, I am curious about the more vintage looks and sound of the direct drives coming out of Japan, and am hoping to glean from this audience which of these units may provide me with the same (or as close to)level of enjoyment that my 301 has done. Thoughts on tonearm and MC cartridges pairings with each would be helpful.

I am not really considering anything belt driven at this time for whatever reason, or a deck that veers away from a traditional turntable aesthetic.

If it helps, the rest of the signal chain is as follows.

Aric Audio Motherlode preamp

Manley Steelhead phono pre

Aric Audio Transcend EL 34 push/pull amp

Klipsch Forte iv speakers.

 

I am grateful in advance for your thoughts on this matter.

 

 

laaudionut

I used to collect Japanese direct drive tables but sold them all off to a vintage collector a few years ago.

JVC QL-y66f great sounding table with a very nice tonearm/wand combo.

Mitsubishi LT-5V great table for show and tell but a pain to set and keep tracking force accurate.

Sony PS-x75 very good table once I changed out the electrolytic capacitor tied to speed stability,

Yamaha PX-2 "Guns of Navarone" turntable

Two I had my sights on acquiring before I gave up the Japanese DD fetish:

Nakamichi Dragon

Yamaha GT-5000

 

Isn’t “GT5000” a reference to Yamaha’s latest TT (not vintage) which is belt driven? With respect, none of the TTs on your list is top drawer among vintage Japanese DD TTs. Here’s my list of the best, all of which are still worth north of $4000:

Kenwood L07D

Technics SP10 mk3

Pioneer Exclusive P3 and P3a

Sony PS-X9

Yamaha GT2000X

Denon DP100

and probably one or two others.

Alex, the Pioneer Exclusive P3 is my great white whale. I’ve always wanted one. We visit Tokyo annually because our son lives there. I’ve never seen one in the flesh and for sale even in Tokyo. Even on Hifido. If you have an idea where I can find one, I’d appreciate it.
 

 

@lewm

in Italy there is a dealer who keeps the P3, usually he buys one at a time immediately after selling the previous one and buys only P3 that are aesthetically 9/10 or 10/10 in evaluation.
They are sold with revision and guarantee and updated to the mains voltage of 230V, too bad that every time there is one for sale in the store the price goes up frighteningly.

 

which is their third from the top of the Victor commercial line, which was the TT101.

 

 

it's the fourth if we add the leader TT801

TT801 adds vacuum clamping, which is a nice idea, but so far as I can tell, in order to maintain the bidirectional servo and speed adjustment of the TT101and fit the electronics, Victor had to use integrated circuits that were then available, and the 801 is even less reliable than 101, as a result.