Vintage Amps for Thiel 1.5


I have a pair of Thiel CS 1.5s that I love for their clarity, imaging, and tonal balance, but sometimes I wish they were a bit more dynamic in the mid bass.

I have been driving them with an old Sony TA-1150 (35w rms, 150w dynamic into 4 ohms), that sounds great but I worry may not have enough power. I usually keep the volume control at around 1/3 - 1/2 and rarely feel the need to go above 1/2, so is my amp powerful enough after all? Is the lack of kick drum punch just the limitation of the Thiels' 6.5" woofer?

Or would I get better punch with a higher watt amp from the '90s? What would you recommend for around $500? 

Bryston 3b? Creek 5350SE? Carver?
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Showing 2 responses by soix

Some more food for thought FWIW.  First, what sub are you using and have you tried crossing it over a bit higher to see if it adds that added oomph you may be looking for?

As for Bryston, obviously great amps but just because your speakers may have been in part voiced or shown with Brystons doesn't necessarily mean they'll provide specifically what you're looking for in your system and with your tastes.  Reason I mention this is that I've had Bryston amps in my system and found their bass to be very quick and tight but not as meaty down in the upper and mid bass region as some other amps.  I noticed a nice improvement in this area between the SST and SST2 models, but especially as you move back to older models you might find them not as helpful in the particular area you're trying to address  Mind you this is just a semi-educated guess from my experience, and others with more extensive Bryston experience (especially with older vs. newer Bryston iterations) may be of more help here. 

I've had a McCormack DNA 0.5 Rev A in my system forever, and I found it to be a bit meatier and more robust sounding than the Brystons down in the mid and upper bass areas so was thinking it might be a good fit for what you're looking for.  Also, there happens to be a very nice stock DNA 0.5 available here now for a little over your $500 price target.  BTW, Thiels were frequently paired with McCormack amps at shows as well. 

Again, just a little more info to chew on, and others with McCormack and/or Bryston experience may have further thoughts along these lines.  Hope this helps in some way. 

I haven't the slightest idea about your Sony amp.  But the Thiel CS 1.5s were the main reason I got re-interested in high-end audio back in the mid 90s.  They were being powered by a Pass Aleph 3 amp and I think a Bryston pre, and it sounded incredible -- very balanced and refined with excellent imaging and soundstaging.  The 1.5s seemed to thrive on that Class A power and oomph, and if I owned those speakers I'd be scouring the net for that amp and maybe even an older Bryston pre.  Personally I think those speakers deserve better than a $500 amp, but best of luck in your search.