Vienna Beethoven Owners--I need your advice


I have the opportunity to purchase some very nice demo units in Rosewood for little more than typical used price with the warranty--probably because the Sumiko rep is bragging about the new totally redisigned Beethoven now trickling in. They are low hour and flawless. I heard some of their music, including Yoyo Ma. The cello seemed alive. However, when I returned with my own cd's I was surprised by a few things. There was plenty of base in Dire Straits--more than I expected, but the voice was so smooth and muted that it didn't sound real. I tried Stephan Grappeli and the high notes of the violin also seemed so smooth, without any timber. I then listened to some salsa, which sounded pretty darn good. As you can see, my tastes cover a broad range.

I should point out that the equipment wasn't too impressive, some Integra (Onkyo?) seperates that I am not familiar with. The cabling was high end though.

Was I auditioning speakers that weren't broken, inadequately powered, or both?

I remember auditioning Mozarts several years ago at another dealer using Mark Levinson seperates and they were most impressive.

Thanks for any feedback.
gwoodall

Showing 1 response by jmcgrogan2

I've owned Beethovens and currently own the Strauss. Vienna Acoustic speakers are very hard to audition because of poor demo conditions, in my experiences. When I first auditioned a pair of Beethovens, I was unimpressed. The speakers sounded bloated in the bass and stressed, or congested at higher levels. The room setup (at a Tweeter) left much to be desired. The speakers were too close to rear walls (being rear ported speakers). They were also being driven by a B&K receiver.

Once I was offered a demo pair to try at home. I figured 'what the heck', so I took a pair home. I hooked them up to some quality electronics (a Classe CP-60 and CA-200 if I recall correctly), and spent a couple hours playing with positioning and toe-in. I was surprised at how much the sound had changed. The bass had tightened up substantially. All of a sudden I noticed how warm and smooth the midrange and high's were. The imaging was very impressive also. Almost as good as the Audio Physics Virgo's I'd been listening to.

Anyway, to make a long story short, the Beethovens grew on me and I bought them. After a couple years I moved up to the Strauss. The main thing with VA speakers is they need room in the back to breath. Don't try to put these less than 2' from the rear wall. High grade electronics bring out better results also, just like with most speakers.

Try to tell the salesman that you're interested, but would like to demo at home. Maybe you could put down a refundable deposit or something. I would bet that the problems you mentioned are mostly from:
1) Improper set-up (boundries/toe-in).
2) Poor recording/source/amplification.

Good luck,
John