Vienna Acoustics Beethoven Grand

Available in Europe only, like the 'Signatures' versions I guess? I wish Sumiko would import the whole line.

What is the MSRP? Funny, there is nothing in the Sumiko or Vienna Acoustics website about them. What dealer? Most VA dealers that I've met use receivers for demos (Tweeter). It must be nice to have a legitimate high end dealer carrying the VA line.

Flemke, that's just as well, since Tweeter did such a dis-service to VA with such poor demo conditions.

Which Dynaudio? One friend of mine has the Audience 82's another friend has a pair of Contour 3.4's. Very nice speakers.

John

I just sold my Strauss's and got Proac D25.. So far with only about 20 hours on them and even with new speaker cables the Proac's crush the Vienna's..

LOL. I still get a good chuckle out of replys like this. My new Brand X crushes my old Brand Y. Hehe. How about 'this new amp smokes that amp'. Great stuff. It's fun having people make mountains out of molehills.

It's fine that you're happy with your new speakers, we all like to feel our purchases are valid. C'mon though, let's be realistic. If your new Proac's CRUSH the Strauss, you obviously had:

A) A damaged pair of the Strauss.
B) No idea how to set the Strauss up in your room.
C) Both of the above.

Now I'm not saying it's not possible for you to not like your new Proac's better, but using the word 'crush' is so juvenile. It really insults the intelligence of the reader.

FWIW, I have a pair of Strauss, and a couple of audiophile friends who love my Strauss. One owns a pair of Dynaudio 3.4's the other currently owns a pair or Von Schweikert VR-4 Jr's. They would gladly trade. I've also owned and or auditioned speakers from Soliloquy, Silverline, Dynaudio, JMLabs, Buggtussel, Canton, Mirage, Meadowlark, Proacs, Von Schweikert's, and Legacy, to name a few. I've been in this hobby for 30 years, long enough to know that in this league, no one 'crushes' another one unless there is damage or a setup malfunction.

So in essence, it's fine that you prefer the sound of Proacs. In your system, with your tastes in music, they may be the best choice. There is no need to be so juvenile about it though. (My dad can kick your dad's butt), yeah, right.

Cheers,
John

With 35 years of expeience you should realize how silly the word 'crush' is. You did NOT make a simple statement about how you find the D25's better then the Strauss. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that statement. You came out with an outrageous exaggeration, without any description. I have three teenage sons, and that's how they talk. ' My new video game slaughters my old one.' 'This cd crushes their last cd.' Statements like that lead me to beleive that you were a novice, because that's how I hear novices talk (the new Nordost cable kills the Cardas). No description of sound, no objective regarding pluses' and minuses', differences, personal musical tastes, etc.

FWIW, I'm not saying that the Strauss are the best speakers out there. I've heard better. I never even said they were better than your D25's, I haven't heard the D25's. However,I would never make a statement like the Strauss crush the Bose though, because as my experience grows, so does my ability to place thoughts into words.

I'm glad your happy riding your bike, it obviously has re-kindled your youth. If you don't like hifi equipment, that's fine also.

Regards,
John

Never mind, I just read another post where evidently BAT VK1000's will 'tear apart' Krell amps. Looks like I have to adapt. My VPI turntable will obliterate the Linn tables! There, I'm getting the hang of it.