Even with my big vocal ribbons in a larger space there is floor and ceiling bounce which get encoded easy to hear but reverb and other tricks can get things out of control also... I call it Ten feet Tall Diana Krall.... |
A Leica Disto ( or similar ) should help you document exactly where the speakers and your chair should be.... my blue tape on the floor never seems to survive long....
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Point of clarification: the 7 do not come with a laser jig, that is part of the dealer kit for setting up the 7
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my apologies, I am sure all us Vandersteen owners are passionate about meticulous setup, tuning and the massive rewards.... as i seek to learn from the masters and as a sometimes adobe hack and loudspeaker manual editor, I would love to see the notes on master setup.... i have been bugging RV about a simple, less expensive 3d printed laser jig that fits other models, i will bug the Wizard of Hanford again today....
best to all
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also put your targets at ear height on the listening chair if you can, not a rear wall, hopefully many many feet distant..the rear wall s2nd choice
in general i end up aiming about a foot to 8” outboard of each ear. your milage may vary
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you have 5a not 7, i have owned both, spend an extra buck and get the laser with a flat base, the jig is for the 7 and adjusts toe in also,
you are wrong @stringreen |
wow cool can you point out a few differences ? the laser jig helps setup the 7 so i have worked out some of that math and use a laser when setting up the 5a , Q and Treo for toe in. I use the manual chart for tilt. Obviously music is the ultimate test i do get the listeners chair away from wall effect.
so glad you are enjoying them !!!!!!!
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@pilrem wonderful!!!!!!! powered adjustable bass is really cool, glad to hear you are well setup and enjoying the music. I ran Niagria for years a very very neutral wire for sure.....
enjoy !!!!!
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@daverz thanks, this will push me to learn some new things !,,,,thanks for sharing |
@daverz dude...way beyond me...lucky for me I never had to write usable code !!!!! but a worthy project, no ????? best ! jim
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@pilrem they listen and pick best sounding tap but i would start with 8 your speakers are an easy load...... dial them in, get to know them and then try the other taps..... |
I think if your RTA centers are on the 11 bands vs the normal 1/3 octave that would be somewhat canonical... the freq bands were based on typical room nodes not octaves
proof is in the sound ! |
Jaclyn will mail you all the spike shoes you need, they are reasonable $$$$ imo good advice on the 1hz sweep...
load the top of the antique chest up with ramdom stuff....natural diffuser......love the room..... |
@nrenter good thread for sure..i don’t seem to spend much time there....music calling I guess.....
the setup kit is in work for sure but probably not as comprehensive as suggested....the machined laser alignment tool is coming ala the 7 which makes toe in a snap. spreadsheet good i gave up that when i retired but i do have same w notebook...and i take a photo of each page and they are out there...somewhere in the cloud..no doubt the N. the wizard of Hanford about Vandertones and the Analog SPL meter.....i think, even after a massive teryaki burger bribe, I am going to have to do it myself....something about “ autocorrection for room gain”...... |
I believe WI has a fantastic Vandersteen dealer but there are many of us and of course the factory to help also yes the point about trying to raise real holes w EQ is covered in the manual - in fact boost across all 11 bands is not equal to cut for that very reason also hopefully your pair will come with the excellent yellow Vishay screwdriver to adjust the bass adjustment of bass is really a two person job my guess is your previous owner will also have NOT reset all 11 bands to zero on each speaker - be sure to do that a small high intensity led flash light is a godsend.... take your time.... you shall be rewarded
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OP where are you located ?
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First congrats - you will be rewarded and shocked with what your room does to bass and how you can tame it in the analog domain. first verify verify verify amp input impedence!!!!! otherwise you will need a good multimeter ! get the RS analog meter, verify it works get a camera tripod to get meter at listening position ear level get a Leica Disto for super accurate measurement of distance to tweeter ( used to set tilt !!! get your chair OFF the wall my Ears in the beater Treo CT setup are 40” off the wall follow the instructions the Vandertones disc has a nice bass recording made at Oceanway Studio it is a good alternate to Ray but Amazon has Soular Energy :-) i also use JD Souther Silver Blue on the album A Natural History - Victor Krauss plays bass but I prefer Stanley Clarke on Black Rose version enjoy short of 7’s imo one of the absolute best speakers out there ask ???????
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