Vandersteen Forum


I bought an older pair of Vandersteen 2Ce and did not like them. Found out one woofer was crackling (what I did not like was poor tweeter and midrange). I went onto the Vandersteen forum to see if changing a component or two would better the sound than 25 year old speakers. In 2022 almost anyones speakers sound better than 25 year old Vandersteen technology. 
The replies raised my eyebrows. I was just wondering if anyone else has had any experience with that forum and did they find it cult-like or is it just me?

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The OP was on the Vandy forum and posted some very critical posts-mostly to the effect of how can the speakers be redesigned. He was told in no uncertain terms that he could modify the speakers to his heart’s delight, but the forum would not be party to it. Hence, he is on Audiogon trying to make the Vandy Forum sound ’cult-like’.

Far from it. The forum is for Vandersteen owners to share experiences and learn things they might not have known about. Yes, most forum posters are Vandy fans, we are those that find time and phase correct speakers to provide that ’je ne sais quoi’ that other speakers don’t. If you find ’25 year old Vandersteen technology’ to be so bad, why waste your time complaining?

@2psyop , posted a great reply, as did the other repliers.

 

 

@geworthomd ,

Sorry the Vandy’s didn’t light your fire, but at least you found something that does.

And, to answer your question:

Yes, it is just you.

Bob

"i drove around in this porsche i just bought with a flat tire, geez it just drives like crap, so i went to the porsche forum, asked people can this car be made to drive better if i went to jrz coilovers instead of the stock bilsteins... and man, those people had nothing useful to say, just told me to fix the flat, don't modify anything, and wouldn’t engage on anything else.... what jerks..."

 

Pretty good analogy....

B

The OP likes his B&W speakers, so leave him alone.

We tried to help him, but he had other ideas which are fine and dandy. As Sir Vandicream said to you, as well. 

 

I just don't get the reason for the issue here.

 

Yes, they are your speakers, and you are free to do as you wish to them. But, to go on a forum for that brand and expect others to agree with your desire to 'modify' them, and then lash out against them when they disagree, seems a bit strange.

Bob

 

If anyone is to blame, it is I. (-As Jane Hathaway would have said).😏

 

I invited Ralph to join in a thread to discuss time/phase delay in his new Class D amps, because I don’t have the knowledge or verbal/written ability to either make or rubut any questions regarding said topic.

I felt having the designer say, in his own words, what he has done or believes, would be the most direct way of addressing the issue.

Yes, the forum says you have to own Vandersteen, and I have no issue with that. But, when it comes down to providing information on a subject that is directly related to the Vandersteen Time/Phase issue, I think it wise to allow other designers to have a say, if only in the interest of ’fair play’. Yes, Mr. V. is footing the hosting bill, but to exclude differing or questioning opinions, based on a forum technicality, seems to lessen the benefits of discourse.-Especially, considering that Ralph conducted himself properly.

 

@ctsooner , and @audioconnection , are people who’s opinion I value.

However, in this case, I have to disagree with them.

bob