Vandersteen 3A sig VS B W Nautilus 804


If you had to choose one of these, Which one would it be and why? Just curious about your thoughts on these models. Thank you.
jorge_err
I have been using the N 804's for over a year and have been very happy with them. Yes, they can be a bit bright on top and system matching is important. Definitly stay away from silver cables and bright sounding digital front ends. A great tube preamp is a must. When you get things right they can make beautiful music indeed. I also use a Vandersteen sub to extend the bass which adds a natural fullness to the sound as well as tremendous dynamics. I'm sure the Vandy's may be easier to live with but from what I've heard I don't think they are in the same league as the Nautilus series with respect to transients and detail....i.e. you might find yourself getting board after awhile. Before I got the N804's I had Thiel 2.3's which I could not get to sound balanced. No matter what I did they were way too forward and bright. Compared to them the N804's are downright warm and cuddly :-)
I've heard both these speakers and they are so radically different in design and execution it's funny to see them mentioned in the same sentence.

If you prefer a more laid back sound the Vandys are an unbelievable bargain in the price range. Some feel they sound very natural, while others find them a bit dark in character. I fall in the latter category but respect the overall high level of performance and would recommend highly that you give them a serious listen. Bass is also outstanding for a speaker at this price. One caveat is they are fairly placement sensitive so if you have space restrictions they may not work in your room.

As for the B&Ws, take the inverse of everything I've said about the Vandys(including the value part) and there you have it. I could name ten speakers off the top of my head that sell for the same or much less than the 804s that I'd much rather have(see below for short list). The biggest problem for me is the metal tweeter--the thing just can't get out of the way of the music. Every time a cymbal is struck there is a peaky, sharp character that draws my attention to the tweeter. It's not so bad on classical, but jazz, blues, pop don't work. The midrange is very good if a bit dry relative to others, and the bass is tight and tuneful, but not nearly enough depth/impact at this price point(I think you're paying up big for the cabinet work). Let me add that I've heard these with super high-end electronics and although it obviously helps(as it does with all speakers) the basic limitations still apply. A lot of people love these and they are very high-quality speakers so you should obviously listen for yourself to see if they work for you, but you were asking for our thoughts so there it is.

At this price point I'd strongly suggest you look at Silverline Sonatinas, Soliloquy 6.2 or 6.3, Joseph Audio RM25si, Triangle Ventis, Gershmann RX20, or Audio Physic Tempo III. All of these in my opinion offer much more value and are better in just about every way than the 804s and are more revealing than the 3As if you find the Vandys are too laid back for your taste or don't work for some other reason(looks, size, etc.).

Those are my thoughts for what it's worth, but the bottom line is you really gotta go out and listen for yourself. These speakers are so different you'll know in about a minute which one works best for you. Best of luck.

Tim
I've not heard the BW 804s, but have lived with the Vand. 3Asigs for a year now and can very highly recommend them. I agree with Tap3sap's comments on the Vandys. Good Luck. Craig
I AGREE THAT THE VANDYS ARE INCREDIBLE FOR THE PRICE AND ARE BETTER THEN MANY SPEAKERS COSTING MUCH MORE.HOWEVER AFTER HAVING THEM IN MY SYSTEM,I NOW HAVE THE ALON II MKIII IN MY SYSTEM AND PREFER THEM.AS ALWAYS IT DEPENDS ON PERSONAL TASTE,ROOM ACOUSTICS,ELECTRONICS,CABLES AND OVERALL SYNERGY!THE VANDYS ARE HARD TO BEAT ,BUT THE ALONS REALLY PUT ME IN LALA LAND!! RICH
I agree with the above statements. The Vandersteen 3A Signatures are a no brainer and have no competition anywhere near their respective price range. If the music really matters to you, the decision is simple; Vandersteen Audio.
I have had both in my system, and the Vandersteen 3A Sig remains. I found the B&W N804 to be bright, and they prevented me from listening for extended periods of time. Some might describe the N804 as detailed and reveling, personally they just do not make music like the Vandersteens do.

Reasons to buy the Vandersteens: First order crossovers, which provide phase correct sound (when combined with time aligned drive units as Vandersteen does), Full range, Freq. response is 30 – beyond what I can hear, the money goes for what is on the inside of the speaker, not into fancy wood veneers, they make music, and are at the same time revealing.

But you need to decide based on what you like!