Stevemj, why don't you go to a site for scientific and engineering discussion where you can bask in numbers and theory. The people at Audiogon are interested in improving their music systems, and every time a question is posted concerning cable, there you are, trolling for an argument. I think you are more interested in fighting than listening to music. I would ignore you, but you are constantly in the way of us making progress on this subject. If it really makes you that crazy to read about us enjoying these things, I suggest you be the party to leave. As for me, I am with the vast majority of posters at Audiogon, the question is not IF there is a difference, but WHICH cable to choose, for the system. If you don't believe in this, understand that it is akin to going to a religious site and telling them there is no God. You should know this is going to pick a fight, so why do you continue?