USB DACs, WIndows 11, and newer Intel chipsets


I’ve been successfully using a Meridian Explorer2 DAC on my Windows 10 machine for some years.  However, Microsoft/Intel planned obsolescence forced me to build a new computer because WIndows 11 now requires functions not supported by my otherwise more-than-capable CPU. Sigh.

The new system has a high-end ASUS ROG STRIX Z890-E Wifi Gamer motherboard, based on Intel’s Z890 chipset.  As with most new boards, the UEFI omits options llike CSM (compatibility mode) and Legacy USB support, so it can’t see the DAC (a USB Audio  Class 2.0 device).  I’ve tried every standard solution (toggling XHCI, accessing a USB 2.0 channel in a 5GBps USB port, switching btw Meridian and Windows drivers, etc.) but the bottom lilne is that, like more & more new motherboards, this one does not support legacy USB devices like this known-working DAC. 

Meridian provides no support for its Explorer products ("please contact your distributor").

I have decent desktop speakers -- a pair of classic Sonigistix Monsoon MM-1000 planars -- but this is not a critical audiophile application. However, the mobo’s onboard audio is not an option due to an insurmountable gain mismatch.

After wrestling with this for days, I give up.  I don’t need MQA and the Explorer’s history of compatibility issues convinces me to move on (anyone want an Explorer2 cheap?) 

I’m thinking about something like an Audioquest Cobalt.  But I’m concerned that any older USB DAC may have the same issues.

So I’m not looking for advice re: getting the Explorer2 to work (unless you have some insider knowledge).  I’m just trying to find an under-$500 USB DAC that, with certainty, will work with newer motherboards & chipsets that don’t support Legacy USB operation. 

Does anybody have first-hand experience with ANY such DAC?  Obviously, the more recent the release, the better.

Thanks for any first-hand recommendations.

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cundare2

Showing 2 responses by milpai

@cundare2 ,

I am not sure if you posted here about upgrading from Windows 10 to 11 on non-compatible machines. But if you had did that I would have suggested you the RUFUS upgrade. I updated my vintage 2010 Desktop to the latest version on Windows 11 using this upgrade.

For your current situation - you might want to post on audiophilestyle site. They are more conversant with these sort of things. I my mind, Audiogon is a analog site while AudiophileStyle is a digital site - I cannot live without either and love them both.

For the rest of the folks who don't want to lose their existing Windows 10 softwares or have incompatible I suggest the Rufus upgrade.

Here are the links I used

 

https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-upgrade-an-incompatible-windows-10-pc-to-windows-11-two-ways/


https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-install-windows-11-the-way-you-want-and-bypass-microsofts-restrictions/

https://www.zdnet.com/article/you-can-still-upgrade-old-pcs-to-windows-11-even-if-microsoft-says-no-readers-prove-it/

@cundare2 ,

I did read your post and I was hoping that others who are on the fence to upgrade their desktop to a new machine, read the options that I was suggesting. Because if they are in the similar situation as you were earlier, they could upgrade their existing installation and still use their old DAC. People have reported on the Windows forums that after using Rufus to upgrade their Windows 10 to 11, they are still are able to use legacy devices.

Also, I stand by my comment on analog Vs digital. I suggest you check out Audiophilestyle and see the depth of digital knowledge being discussed on that forum. I have been on this site for 2 decades and have high respect for the well known members and the newer members members who are respectful to others. But the depth of digital discussions that go on the Audiophilestyle site (whether folks like it or not) is at a completely different level.

BTW, what are the components of your $50k system? Would love to see that, if you can post some pics.