Upsampling, Can there be too much?


I've owned the Chord Mscaler for a year and loved it, but recently added two new components that have built in upsampling: The Aurender W20SE, and the Jay's Audio CDT3-MK3. I find the Mscaler works well with the Aurender's built in upsampling, but not the Jay's.

 

Conclusion: not upsampling the Jay's, and standard redbook 16-bit 44Khz to the Mscaler gives incredible 24-bit 705Khz to the Hugo TT2 DAC for finest sound.

 

With multiple upsamplers in a chain has anyone gotten static, popping, smearing, or any kind of distortion from too much upsampling?

brandonhifi

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With some upsampling software you also get the chance to use various filters to "shape" the sound... Anything from Linear phase sharp to Minimum phase slow...

Choices are good as everyones kit, room, ears and brain are different...

True points with regard to choice. Not everyone finds “shaping the music signal “ advantageous or a positive attribute. Some listeners prefer their music without the shaping and manipulation. No doubt an individual call.

Chsrles

 

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I like upsampling music playback, NOS sounded a bit rough to my ears, but some people swear by it as some holy grail DAC mode. Definitely subjective opinion here.

Agreed, unquestionably subjective. Some listeners do not like up/over sampling due to algorithms/mathematical use and subsequent manipulated-recreated or reconstruction of the signal. So definitely alternative approaches preferred by different listeners. Thankfully options of choice exist.

Charles

Chains of digital devices, each with their own clock/jitter signatures are a bad idea, as each has to attempt to de-jitter and lock the clock according to its own peculiarities. IMHO, those who keep chasing a new upsampler are chasing different, but not necessarily better, jitter signatures.

A rational observation.

Charles

 

@roxy54 

I throughly understand your point. With DACs those are distinctly two different types of products for distinctly different types listeners.Very different presentations. Not much cross shopping there.

Charles

@brandonhifi 

The physical transport is in everyway more detailed, tonally more rich and fuller and deeper sounding. I can't say instrument separation is better because the W20SE is masterful at that also. But after correcting the loose cable issue, like finding a needle in a haystack in my rig, The Jay's Audio CDT3-MK3 is nothing less than magical. Everything I play through it, if well recorded, because it is perfectly revealing, but if well recorded, is jaw dropping. Sometimes this last week I'll just sit in my listening chair and grin ear to ear because never in my life have I heard anything that good even in all my high end hi fi shops in Minneapolis, USA.

Understood

Those “physical media “ silver disc can sound genuinely stunning with a high quality CD transport. You have that and a top notch streamer. Congratulations!

Charles