Hi all,
Thom here … I haven't logged much forum time in the past 18 months as the Eiger project has been all-consuming. I'll try to hit on a few salient points …
Doug: I agree with you about belt traction. Last year's new drive system employs a much higher torque motor (significantly so), and this permitted use of a much wider pulley (approx. 1.3" diameter for lower gearing). This had the effect of significantly increasing belt traction. We're still playing with alternate materials (current one is stainless, but we're playing with a two-piece assembly).
Palasr: the missing Blue Lake link was an oversight. I just updated the Drive Belt page you referenced above.
Audiotomb: Thanks for the kind words. I realize your post above is from January, and you likely read my newsletter from two weeks ago about the shift back to "plastic" (Mylar/Kapton) belts.
One of the benefits of customers like Palasr (who are inclined to experimentation) is that they keep you honest and frequently beat you to the punch (with the Kapton in this case).
I have to confess that I fell in love with these woven belts - especially due to their robust construction. I'm a big fan of "robust", but in this case, it was a bit over the top. I found that the increased mass was transmitting noise into even a Stelvio platter.
One thing to note about Kapton is that while sonically it's Mylar's twin (far more alike than different), it's much more durable than Mylar. As Palasr pointed out, they're the drive belt of choice for flight recorders in commercial aircraft (the "black boxes"), which is pretty much a "no fail" application. You can still put a "crinkle" in one of these belts if you're not careful when installing them, but apart from that, they show promise of a long life.
For anyone contemplating a belt change, take note of any change in thickness from your current belt because it will affect how fast your platter spins. Depending on your turntable's design (adjustability) and the thickness of your current belt, you may have to take this into account.
With the shift from the .035" fabric belts back to Mylar/Kapton (.002"), I had to update the support page with a calibration procedure for the controller - a whole page to tell you how to twiddle two screws.
This effect on platter speed is counterintuitive, but I can get into the physics in a follow-up post, if anyone is interested. I'll try to catch up on the last few years' posts in this thread as well, and may have more to say on this topic.
Cheers,
Thom
Thom here … I haven't logged much forum time in the past 18 months as the Eiger project has been all-consuming. I'll try to hit on a few salient points …
Doug: I agree with you about belt traction. Last year's new drive system employs a much higher torque motor (significantly so), and this permitted use of a much wider pulley (approx. 1.3" diameter for lower gearing). This had the effect of significantly increasing belt traction. We're still playing with alternate materials (current one is stainless, but we're playing with a two-piece assembly).
Palasr: the missing Blue Lake link was an oversight. I just updated the Drive Belt page you referenced above.
Audiotomb: Thanks for the kind words. I realize your post above is from January, and you likely read my newsletter from two weeks ago about the shift back to "plastic" (Mylar/Kapton) belts.
One of the benefits of customers like Palasr (who are inclined to experimentation) is that they keep you honest and frequently beat you to the punch (with the Kapton in this case).
I have to confess that I fell in love with these woven belts - especially due to their robust construction. I'm a big fan of "robust", but in this case, it was a bit over the top. I found that the increased mass was transmitting noise into even a Stelvio platter.
One thing to note about Kapton is that while sonically it's Mylar's twin (far more alike than different), it's much more durable than Mylar. As Palasr pointed out, they're the drive belt of choice for flight recorders in commercial aircraft (the "black boxes"), which is pretty much a "no fail" application. You can still put a "crinkle" in one of these belts if you're not careful when installing them, but apart from that, they show promise of a long life.
For anyone contemplating a belt change, take note of any change in thickness from your current belt because it will affect how fast your platter spins. Depending on your turntable's design (adjustability) and the thickness of your current belt, you may have to take this into account.
With the shift from the .035" fabric belts back to Mylar/Kapton (.002"), I had to update the support page with a calibration procedure for the controller - a whole page to tell you how to twiddle two screws.
This effect on platter speed is counterintuitive, but I can get into the physics in a follow-up post, if anyone is interested. I'll try to catch up on the last few years' posts in this thread as well, and may have more to say on this topic.
Cheers,
Thom