Upgrade advice, please.


I'd appreciate some input/guidance/opinion about the most cost-effective upgrade move to make - amplification or speakers? Major components of my system are posted (I also have some rudimentary room treatments in place not shown in my system post). After playing around for years with placement of my Totem Forests I feel like I've finally found something that really sounds good Most of the time I'm very happy with the sound whether running a factory modified JoLida 502B (Winged C KT88s; Mullard AT7s; Ei Elite AX7s) or a JAS H-1 hybrid (ss pre; Winged C EL34 tubes) so possibly I shouldn't do anything at all. My budget is $3000 at most. Used is OK. My listening area is smallish...an open ended alcove roughly 13' x 15'. Should I upgrade amplification? I'd like any upgrade here to be all tubes. Change speakers? Do nothing? My goals are more volume (getting to 85 - 90 db without things sounding strained), deeper and better controlled bass, higher resolution. Thanks in advance for your time and input.
ghosthouse

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Hey Mapman, Thanks. I'd like to stay with tubes. As stated, my goals are more volume (getting to 85 - 90 db without things sounding strained), deeper and better controlled bass, higher resolution. Your reply is exactly the situation I'm in...go to a more sensitive speaker or up the amplification? I like the sound of the Forests so changing speakers seems a riskier route to follow but might ultimately be the best course. Thanks again.
Samujohn - You might have nailed it...at least what I'm suspecting. Mostly things sound great but occasionally, (Track 4 Snowbound of Donald Fagen's "Kamakiriad"... a couple of measures in) I'll hear some basss distortion. I'm wondering if more power will fix this. Thanks for your reply.
Folks -
Thanks. You are pretty much confirming what I've been thinking although I don't believe the minimum power requirement for the Forests is as high as mentioned. Please let me know if you've found some other info. See Forest specs from the Totem website...
Frequency Response: <33 Hz - 20 kHz ± 3 dB (in room)
Impedance: 8 ohms (6.4 minimum)
Sensitivity: 87 dB
Recommended power: 50 - 200 W

I do think they'd benefit from more power, however. I've been bouncing around between trying to stay all tubes vs maybe a tube pre w/ss power amp. Thanks for the equipment suggestions.
Folks - thanks for your generosity in taking time to reply. No one seems to be saying dump the Forests - but rather more power appears to be the way to go (I'd been leaning in that direction). Samujohn and Mapman - I think you are both running Class D "digital amps"? What's your opinion about them with respect to sound stage, ambience, air & space? I appreciate the suggestions. Plenty of stuff to research. Thanks again.
Mapman - not to prolong this thread unecessarily, but your comment about "optimizing the sound of the Totems" has been my inclination (though possibly the easier path might be to find some higher sensitivity speakers). I suspect the Totems still have something to show and will benefit from better amplification. I'll keep browsing the equipment here to see what becomes available. I am also open now to the possibility of finding a more powerful hybrid integrated or going ss amp w/tube pre. Again, thanks for the time you (and others) took to reply.
Reading archived threads seeking upgrade advice, I often find myself wondering what the OP ultimately did; so...an update for those interested:

I picked up a used pair of Consonance Cyber 800SE monoblocks and a demo Consonance Cyber 50 pre-amp. Thanks to Stephen Monte of Quest for Sound in Bensalem, PA for working with me to make this happen. I am REALLY enjoying the sound. The Cybers have certainly provided all that I felt was missing. The Forests never sounded better in my listening area.

Hope to re-post system photos soon.