Update on good Ethernet switch

@tonywinga not at all. That you resort to personal attacks shows that you don’t have an argument. 

@soix so if network professionals have 0 credibility, than would land you and the rest at negative at least a million, meaning run, do not walk, run the exact opposite way of what you recommend.

@jerrybj  curious, how did you add a clock to a switch that doesn’t have an input for a clock?

@jerrybj  do you know what the clock is used for in a switch? 

@tonywinga not at all. That you resort to personal attacks shows that you don’t have an argument. 

@tonywinga  you have a few details correct, but you are missing a lot, like 90%.

 You are correct in that Ethernet sends a sine wave, however, depending on the speed, it could be as high as 4 simultaneously waves. Ethernet uses something called a frame to transmit over the wire. Built into the the frame is a crc check, so if there is anything that goes wrong, the frame is discarded. 
also important is that Ethernet standards, regardless of speed over what’s called an Ethernet cable (twisted pair) has building common more noise rejection, that handles most noise, certainly all noise in a residential setting, at speeds less than 2.5Gbit/s. 
 

what you are also missing is that it is a stack of protocols, called TCP/IP, which ensures bit perfect transmission, 100% of the time under normal operating conditions. And you are missing that most music services that provides per song streaming actually downloads a large part, if not the entire song (Qobuz does the entire song) as fast as possible, it doesn’t take very long to download a 24/96 FLAC, seconds, and this download is done over HTTPS, which is encrypted, so you can miss any packets at all or the decryption will fail.

so, now that you have more information, it is easy to see a switch cannot do anything to improve. A poorly design switch can detract and introduce packet loss, but no switch can improve. It is not how the protocol stack functions, in fact it is the opposite of how it works.

@tonywinga do you really think that was the best analogy? Our full understanding of the universe, which is currently beyond our comprehension since neither physics nor mathematics are complete and both are self referencing vs. a stack of protocol we humans designed and documented to exhaustion. 
 

any such comparison is just ridiculous.

@tonywinga why is it that your camp always resort to personal attacks when you are confronted by facts?

@tonywinga what do you base that on? Where is your supporting evidence? Give a reference to anything to support your claims.

because none of it is true, I should know, it is about me. 

@clearthink you are wrong. I have tried Etherregen and various “audiophile” Ethernet cables.

and you are also wrong about cut and paste, I have practiced networking on a daily basis since 1999, and I have worked on some really interesting commercial audio projects. Needless to say, no commercial audio applications use these products, but they only care about what actually improves sound quality.

@cleeds yes, we do know that the technical aspects of Ethernet is beyond your comprehension. Why do you keep coming back to discussions that include the technical is beyond my comprehension.

regarding your experiment, see the first paragraph in this post. You refuse to listen to what Qobuz says about their own service. 

@soix $30 switch marked up as “audiophile”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMFQ3YvR3Eo&t=1012s

the Uptone Etherregen components are cheap and add up to less than <$30 too, so more than 2000% markup.

For everyone saying that network professionals can’t provide value, do you realize what you are saying is that when you are sick (network issues), go the doctor (network professionals), but when you need a specialist (audio applications), go to your plumber (anonymous people on a random Internet forum).

commercial audio applications never use these products, simply because they don’t make a difference.