Upcoming Technics SP-10R (100th Anniversary Model)

Dear @hamburger 


https://www.technics.com/download/brochures/us/SL1000R_SP10R_US_Print.pdf  

https://www.technics.com/global/

https://www.technics.com/us/support/contact.html

R.

Dear friends:  I just received from Technics this email:

AXPONA Is Fast Approaching!

Be there April 13–15 to meet fellow audiophiles and music lovers from all 50 states and 23 countries worldwide. And be among the first to experience the new Technics SP10 Series direct drive turntable system.

The legendary SP10 Series of Direct Drive Turntables and systems are at the heart of the Technics brand—admired by audiophiles the world over for superior technology and performance. Building on their impressive heritage, the new SP10R and SL1000R are an astonishing achievement in direct drive technology, leading the market into a bold new era of near-flawless performance. Staff will be on hand to present and demonstrate these two new turntables, so don't miss out!

Visit us in Exhibit Room #678 and see, hear and feel the striking new flagship SP-10R Direct Drive Turntable and SL-1000R Direct-Drive System. The new Reference Class Series for 2018.

Let us guide you on your journey to rediscover music.

Join us at AXPONA: http://axpona.com

@ferrari275, read maybe it's time to listen and learn.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,

R.

@chakster : The Japan Audio Bible says and is the correct information: 11/81 and received SOTA 82 and Best Buy 84 Audio Japanese prizes. Even in your link its refered as: near 1982 not released as in the MK2 tonearm.

Anyway, not an important issue.

R.

Dear @chakster : The MK3 was realeased in 1981 and the MK2 tonearm in 1982. This tonearm was designed as a stand alone unit and  can be confirmed due that received Best Buy reward/prize in Japan in 1984. 

It's obvious that if Technics púts on sale the MK3 with a dedicated plinth the tonearm there must be the best they had in those years but that does not means that one or the other were designed to stay that way. Lewm is rigth about.

I understood your point.

R.

Dear @invictus005: This is what I posted to atmasphere days ago about the tonearm by Technics:


"""  You said the Triplanar has better bearings, maybe better for you but the Technics gimbal type with 20 precision ruby ball bearings and lower than 5mg. on friction level is no slouch about as it’s not on damping issue or low resonances in its design. Technics did it not only through the boron and titanium nitride build materials but with its unique variable dynamic damping.
Do you know that boron is used on cartridge cantilevers instead carbon fiber ( TP arm wand. ) because boron is less resonant?
The Technics are fully adjustable and that MK2 VTA mechanism is even today unavialable my any other tonearm including the Triplanar. This VTA Technics unique mechanism outperforms " easily " the one in the tonearm you are supporting. """

Boron is the main issue here, yes overall design and quality execution are really important too. I loved the MK2 tonearm.

In the other side, @chakster was only a " happy " coincidence the MK2 tonearm alond the MK3 TT because either of both can been buy it for separate by any audiophile.  @lewm question was maybe because of that.

Anyway, Technics is second to none and good its " come back " to the true high end where the only thing they need is to have on board 2-3 true today audiophiles for they can know what all of we need.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.

@atmasphere : I know the main importance of bearing in any tonearm design and all what you posted but I only ask for the EPA 100 internal wires in the unit you have that " per sé " is really important and makes a difference every thing the same.

Maybe I'm wrong but what I'm read from your posts in this thread seems to me that you are trying to diminish the Technics design " more " that could deserves. The TP is not perfect but comes with today silver wires and the EPA 100 is way inferior in this regards.

Anyway, understood your needs.

R.

Dear @atmasphere :   """  arm and the EPA-100; the Triplanar is easily a better arm... """

I think that any test evaluations between different tonearms needs to have " same parameters/characteristics " and I'm refereing here to that vintage EPA 100 internal wires against the fresh/today TP wiring and this sole characteristic in a tonearm evaluation has a heavy " weigth " for differences in the overall quality performance levels.

When I madeall my " thousands " of comparison tests of several vintage and today tonearms against mine all parameters were almost the same, of course always with the same tonearms internal wiring. I always mantained " test differences/parameters/characteristics " at minimum.

You said almost nothing of the comparison characteristics evaluations that are the foundation of your opiniojnn  about.

R.

Dear @atmasphere : First the 1000R does not comes with the EPA-100 tonearm and I was refering in specific to the 1000R.

Now, you are not speaking as an audiophile because if each single audiophile did think like you then no single of those very well regarded TT that comes with its tonearms that I mentioned/listed just never been sold and facts/sales says other very different history to yours one.

In the other side I had never in my system at the same time the EPA 100 or EPA 100MK2 and the Triplanar. All three/3 are very good performers with its own trade-offs.

You said the Triplanar has better bearings, maybe better for you but the Technics gimbal type with 20 precision ruby ball bearings and lower than 5mg. on friction level is no slouch about as it’s not on damping issue or low resonances in its design. Technics did it not only through the boron and titanium nitride build materials but with its unique variable dynamic damping.
Do you know that boron is used on cartridge cantilevers instead carbon fiber ( TP arm wand. ) because boron is less resonant?
The Technics are fully adjustable and that MK2 VTA mechanism is even today unavialable my any other tonearm including the Triplanar. This VTA Technics unique mechanism outperforms " easily " the one in the tonearm you are supporting.

With the rigth knowledge level almost any one can make that a removable headshell tonearm design can beats ( easily. ) the TP because that depends on many parameters: cartridges, set up, system chain, room interactions, music/sound knowledge levels and the like and as always in audio exist no perfection anywhere.

I think that you have a misunderstood in what you know on Technics tonearms/TTs, quality excecution design and quality level performance against the TP.

The 1000R is only the 100th anniversary item and not the today statement Technics TT/tonearm/cartridge design ever.
You have to remember that Technics is a little part of the gigantic japanese entreprise name it Mathushita with endless resources of every type/kind that mere " mortals " as you or me can’t imagine not even on our dreams ! ! If they want it they can build a product that can " easily " put on shame not only today items but even its SP10 MK3 ! ! or its EPA 100MK2.

Your very close link with TP maybe impedes an unbiased point of view not only against the Technics tonearms but the Technics today 1000R turntable.

You are a manufacturer designer and I know for sure ( first hand experiences. ) that your designs are not perfect ones and with several trade-offs.
Seems to me that when speaking of TP or TT you have an undisclosed agenda. No problem with me if you have it, as me you are free to give an opinion.

Again, Technics made its 1000R design not expresely customed for you or for me.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.

Dear @atmasphere : """ I have to say I’m disappointed especially with the SL1000R; its not available without the arm! """

Disappointed with?, well Technics not designed the 1000R customed for you. As a fact is not custom made for any one.

So why that disappoint when vintage and today TT comes with its dedidacted tonearm: Rockport, Goldmund, Denon DP100, Kenwood, Yamaha, Sony, SME, VPI, Avid, Rega, Project, Clearaudio, and to many other to name it here. It’s the rule.

In the other side: why think in other tonearm before test the 1000R?. Your disappoint and this makes no sense to me.

Makes sense to you?

For second time in this thread I applaud/congratules Technics for the 1000R ! ! ! even if it’s a heavy up-dated SP 10MK3.

@lewm , """
"""" the tonearm suggests a reincarnation of the EPA100 "", not only is different the arm wand build material ( magnesium as I told you. ) but is way different to the EPA 100. It’s obvious that you never owned or had an EPA 100 information.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.

Dear @lewm : The today gentlemans in Technics maybe are not the best true audiophile experts but Technics is just Technics and second to none  and with the "b reborn " of the SP10 MK3 but heavy up-dated I'm sure that  the 10R/1000R not only competes and could be a really challenge and outperforms several TT out there that are with tags over 60K and you can name any heavy $$$$ TT and I know for sure that many of them cabn't compete with.

I'm sure too that the 1000R is a very good design whereb the arm tube comes from magnesium. Yes till we try it we can't know nothing for sure.

But here we can see a 1000R with its own tonearm and mounted around two non-Technics different tonearms that I think are coming from Ortofon:

https://www.whathifi.com/news/ces-2018-technics-introduces-sp-10r-and-sl-1000r-turntables


Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.

Dear @lewm @pryso : Thank's to ask about this terrible and devastating earthwake that occurs after only 12 days of the other devastating earthwake of 8.2°.

Fortunatelly all my family is ok but all the people in my country are really " devastated " for it, especially the ones that lives in México city and the states of: Puebla, Morelos, Oaxaca, Chiapas, Guerrero, Edo. México y Tlaxcala.

As always México ( country ) everytime that occurs a natural disaster in any place over our planet  send different type of HELP, we are always solidaries and we show this solidarity with specific help actions.
 One of the latest time was after the Houston hurricane two weeks before the earthwakes here in México.
As a fact our President send a message to USA goverment that we can't following sending our help to Houston due that our urgent needs by the earthwakes.

Thank's too to all of you that already send me by email your concern about.

Yes, I know where the friendship belongs.

R.

Dear @totem395 : """  Putting other major Japanese based companies in the same "boat" so to speak with Technics in regards to building a new high end table is
at the best wishful thinking. """

Well, maybe I just " think " so loud in my post but I think that audiophiles, each one of us, can do something about and this is MOTIVATE those Japanese companies to do it.
First step is doings with Technics that already is in that " direction ".

To do that we can, each one of us, contact Technicis corporation to send 2 congratulations " for the development of the R10 and at the same time tell that we don't want that stop there but that we audiophiles needs the tonearm and cartridges for that R10 and tell them that exist a " live market " waiting for Technics quality level.

A mail with something like that ( was an example. ). I think that if all of us are together we can make things happens. If we can really motivate Technics to cope our market then  there is a posibility that Sony, Denon, Pioneer or Yamaha go inside the " road ".
At the end all these companies are alive, have the human resources, money and knowledge about.

Even some of them have access to technology/parts where almost all of the today audio industry can't.

Technics needs a stron additional true motivation to " hit " the high-end market other than celebrates its 100th anniversary and that critical motivation needs to go from we audiophiles. Some one needs to tell them we need it.

I invite each one of us to contact Technics through an email and tell them our hopes additional to congratulations for the R10.

High-end market exist because audiophiles exist. Products with out audiophiles does not makes a market for it.

LET'S DO IT  !   TODAY !   be an " actor in the picture " and not a mere

observer as we are today.


Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.

Dear @chakster: That's a very good news for us audiophiles in more than one way.

If Technics/Panasonic decided to " hit " the high-end audiophile market the 10R is a good point to begin with.

This company is part of the gigantic Japanese enterprise Matushita thatis one of the bigger ( if not the biggest. ) electronic corporation in the world.
This means endless human resources and money along latest technologies. They are leaders in what they market.

Now, all those resources could means nothing if Technics does not have today the very specific needs in the true and serious high-end audiophile market for each audio item that conforms an audio system but if they make its work/research and develops the TTs with that specific knowledge level then what a great notice we have here.

If Technics discover all the high-end market needs then we can say that the best time for audio is forthcoming sooner that we can imagine.

We have to remember that historical Technics designed every single audio system items where TTs was only one of those products.
They designed full electronics line, MM and LOMC cartridges, tonearms and even speakers and all their product always first rate and at the top of the top quality performance.

I hope they can do it again because that kind of action can motivate Pionner or Denon to come back to the today high-end market. Where Pionner and Denon where very competitive against Technics in those old times. We just have to remember the Exclusive line in Pioneer or DP-100 with Denon but both were in electronics and speakers too and we have to add companies as Sony or Yamaha and some other. 
All great enterprises with huge resources and very competitive in between.

An scenario with all those Japanese companies is and can be HISTORICAL for say the least and between other things means that the today extremely high price tags that every day goes higher then will go lower and lower for the top audio items will be affordable for almost all of us.

People say here in my country: " when you see your neighbour beard to cut then put yours to soak ".
So, the Technics annoucement is a very good " warning " for the today true audio high-end industry for they WAKE UP and develops the audio items the market truly needs with the rigth price tags and not following given us " MORE OF THE SAME " at every time higher prices.

As I said that 10R is a great notice for all of us. Now we have to wait a little and see if Technics decides to really stay in our market.

I really hope all those can happens ! ! ! !

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.