Ultrasonic: should I do it?


Group,I'm seriously considering an Audio Desk Systeme or Degritter, but before I pull the trigger and spend some serious money, I wanted to get some feedback from you folks.
I don't doubt ultrasonic is a big step forward, but I guess I'm wondering how big a step; I currently use a Record Doctor V/Spin Clean to take care of my vinyl, and yes, either of the above options will be a leap ahead. But I'm also considering a Pro-Ject VC-E, and my question is would the Pro-Ject be enough of an improvement to save me some money.
I've also heard about reliability issues with the Audio Desk, and the Degritter is new. Does anyone have any feedback on the reliability of either unit?
As for DYI ultrasonic, I don't have the space in my home for one of those. I'd seriously look at Kirmuss, but I don't have the stamina, with hundreds of records, for his multi-step system.
Thanks in advance for your input.
arcamguy

Showing 2 responses by regafan

I own an Audio Desk cleaner. I also own a Spin Clean and a Loricraft. I use the  Spin Clean first. At least 60 revolutions to knock the bark off’em. Then I clean them on the Loricraft with a cleaner that can remove oils, soaps, and grease, such as Keith Monks or the Disc Doctor fluids. Then it goes to the Audio Desk then back to the Loricraft for an enzyme wash and a thorough distilled water rinse. Then to the Mobile Fidelity sleeve.

The Audio Desk does not remove oils very well. And while it loosens dirt in the grooves of the record, it does not remove this debris with the efficiency of the Loricraft or any other quality vacuum operated record cleaning machine.
I actually rinse after every step. 

I use a plastic eye dropper to evenly distribute the Spin Clean fluid over the entire surface of the cleaning brushes. This way the lead in grooves and the first track and a half are affected by the cleaning solution. I use the prescribed amount (1 large capful) and no more.

I have taken albums from the Audio Desk and placed them in the Spin Clean sans cleaning fluid and was amazed at how much debris was removed from the record. The Spin Clean rinse works. I go about 16 to 20 turns in total, but equally in both directions. Because there is no cleaning fluid used for the rinse there is no floculant. The fine particles removed from the record will not be suspended at the bottom of the Spin Clean tub. Instead, they will go to the bottom of the tub and adhere to the plastic. Only a soap and water cleaning with a brush will remove this film. I wash my brushes in the clothes washes with a tiny bit of detergent and 1\2 to 3\4 of a cap of bleach added to the bleach portal. Hot wash, cold rinse.

Because of the tenacious nature of these particles, the enzyme wash was incorporated into my regimen. 

Long story made short: always rinse. The Spin Clean used as a rinsing tool works well.


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