Two JL F212s verses two Velodyne 18 plus?

I must say I really like the improvement when I went from two
Dd-15's to 2 F-113's,BUT:
three weeks ago I home auditioned a Velodyne 1812.
The Velodyne totally took over the JL's.
The midbass punch is just incredible and I was shocked how she
left the rest of the music alone.
It's so good that I sold my other Jl's(113's) and will buy one more 1812.
Down side she's heavy and pricey 6500.But she's the best bottomend I have ever auditioned to date.
My dealer even gave me a lifetime warranty,gotta like that.

If your dealer is close buy and he wants a sale,he should let you do a home audition especially if your dishing out lots of coin.
Been thru that a few times,if they don't I'd go somewhere else.
I'm a 3hr drive to a nearest dealer an hour and a half each way.Don't mind the drive if I can get what I want.

That's a bit of a drive(one way)
whichever sub you choose hopefully she's the one as getting two gets pricey.
I went thru six subs and been looking for that live bottom end
sound(my dealer also)15's18's,and some W bins.
when I heard the 1812 in his huge room,I was literally blown away.
Mine is alot smaller and I figured,I could never get this sound in my room.
My dealer said,it doesn't matter the size of room.
We'll he proved it,I get the same sound in my 12X19 as he got in his 16X40X12 room,I couldn't believe it.
He brought it up for a in home audition and I wasn't committed to purchase.I guess he was sure that I'd like it.
The wifey made him dinner and I offered to help on his gas for the drive up.
Anyway I get all the lowend theatre I want,plus the midbass Punch for music,this is bottomend you feel up your backside
and doesn't interfere with what's going on above it.
Totally satisfied musically now,wish you could audition up here.

I'd drive down to the dealer and listen to the 2 subs and then the 1812.
I wanted flexibility with two also,so I'd have a nice blanket of bottom end for the music.Which I got, but I swear nothing I've heard comes close to the 1812 Ive mentioned even with two subs.
No matter where I sit in my room I get that midbass punch,
It's so addictive,and mids and highs are so clean.
Too bad you can't do a weekend drive.
If I had to drive further South(another three hours)to get the sound that's killer,I would,but that's me.
I guess I really strive for the best sound I can get,fianlly
after 6 subs and half dozen years I can rest now as my sub hunt is over.
Hopefully you can do the audition.

I went with four JL's(113's)two for music and two for HT.
they were a big upgrade compared to the DD-15's I had.
When I got to hear the 1812 in a big room I was shocked how good she sounded.
I thought,no way could I get this sound in my room.
To my total surprise and amazement,the 1812 gave me that sound
I've been looking for,superb midbass punch and she digs real deep.
I FORGOT ONE IMPORTANT THING:THE ROOM(s)
thinking I was loading 228sqft(listening area)I tried everything with the JL's,no go.
What I didn't realize is there is a room to the right,small hallway,stairwell and to other rooms.
In reality the Jl's were trying to load around 1240-1300sqft.
The 1812 gives me all the musicality and HT thrills I could want,plus the lifetime warranty the dealer gave me.
I'm sure Gotham twoX213's would load that size of room.
I got a great deal on the 1812 and it was the sound I get out of her that sold me.
Couldn't audition the Gotham's here as I had bought the F-113's on here.
Totally satisfied with the bottom end now,took a few subs to get here though.

Perhaps as all exterior walls are concrete has something to do
with it,or perhaps those subs were partialy defective(don't know)I use to have them up at 2-3:00 on the dial after using the ARO,plus even placing them where I sat and then put them where they sounded best(all a no go).
I hear guys having there JL's at 9:00 or perhaps a bit higher.
Anyway the Velo hits me where it sounds and feels great,
so I'm good,music is such a joy now with this sub.