Turntable isolation platform Recommendations?

Why do you need isolation platform? Isolation from what? 

Hi-Fi rack or some nice and heavy wooden furniture is more than enough for a good turntable.


People are crazy about springs and all that BS.

If you have some problems with bass feedback or your needle skip then tell about it. If you don’t have any problem you don’t need isolation platform.

Yes, Luxman PD-444 has build-in springs inside their feet (those are not soft springs, because it’s super heavy turntable), but this is the way this turntable designed, no additional spring or isolation platform required. See my point?

When I say people are crazy about springs I mean people who think the springs required under everything. The spring is their favorite topic.

My point is do not try to fix a problem if there is no problem at all.

Instead of isolation platform like MINUS-K (not sure how many people can afford it) it can be a custom made rack or table or just a rack from hi-fi store designed for audio components.

A good turntable already isolated, and you don’t have to be in vacuum completely isolated on a space ship to enjoy your vinyl, ok?

I see so many pyramids build by audiophiles under their turntables, they put springs on spring with those butcvher blocks, squash balls, spikes whatever. My questin is alwayы the same: "why?".


If you think I have only luxman Turntable you’re wrong, I have many different turntables, what I do not have is bass feedback or any problem that require additional isolation, this is why I’m asking the OP why he’s looking for isolation platform? Just because some people using them ?

I designed a custom made rack (filled with sand), it’s on spikes, the rack made for my PD-444, as you can see the Tannoy with 15 inch driver is near (pneumatic insulator under Tannoy as you can see). My turntable is "isolated", no bass feedback, nothing. I can knock on turntable plinth and there is nothing in the speakers picked up my my MC cartridge.


Ignorance @has2be ?

What is the problem with your turntables if you need so many things to "isolate" it ??? There is a volcano nearby or you are hammering the floor while the needle is in the groove? I really don’t understand.

Technics made SL1200G and 300 people can jump on the dancefloor dancing all nigh, even in this case nobody use isolation platforms and needles do not skip if everything adjusted correct with 2-3g tracking force. Since the 70’s people widely using Technics turntables in the night clubs (before Technics the Garrard and Thorens have been used there), normally there is a rack, sometimes there is a piece of slate on the rack (table) under the turntables. Nowadays it can be isonoe footers, nothing else. But believe me the sound pressure in the night clubs is nowhere near to your home audio and I believer you are alone in the listening room, I guess 300 people are not dancing on the same floor when you’re in your listening chair at home?

Isolation from what ? Turntable already isolated for home use, just put it on a stable rack or wooden furniture and enjoy the music if you can.

In my opinion it’s better to use a solid rack on spikes than to put some "isolation platform" on a floppy shaking lightweight table. Lightweight turntables on soft springs are shaking from a wind out of your window. 

You have no point. Just more blovient drek. You only make excuses when called out for your misinformed imperialistic opinions, period.
See, where did I even say I needed anything under or on or what rack stand I have. Your last post explicitly shows your inability to be inclusive of anything if it isn’t Chakster approved without any knowledge or experience on it....even when your own table contradicts the statements you make. Hindsight is 20 / 20 but having to BS shuffle explain your own statements constantly is just blind ignorance. If you had of thought of the springs in your table you wouldn’t of put your foot in your mouth and your head in the other end. Absurd..... still laughing at you thinking slate is graphite....

I did not get anything you posted.

Graphite is the color/finishing and the plinth recommended due its DESIGN (not material), in every links I posted about graphite plinth in another thread you can clearly read "slate plinth". Maybe you missed that?

I wish others to find a properly designed turntable first to save on additional springs and isolation.

A good turntable isolated by designer who made a turntable with integrated plinth using feet and various damping materials.

Always the mine is better BS , it’s the one constant you bring. Reality is.....you don’t. You have opinions based on your narrow view of the world according to you while dismissing all others and their choices. I know , I know more than you ever will on many things audio and analog.....only because I learn from others experiences by listening to them ,and trying through experience.... while you disrespect and dismiss them for having differing views and tastes and ignorant of their needs and insulting their choices.

Who you are if you post stuff like this?

Industry professional have been using turntables for over 40 years without any esoteric solutions. Look at the best broadcast studios.

Everybody can watch Chad Kassem and his mastering console at Asoustic Sounds for A/B comparison, do you see any isolation or springs under turntables, except for a massive wood table? Properly designed turntable must be placed direct on the table or rack. Here is an example of my custom made rack (not pained) for Luxman turntable, but I think everyone can make a custom rack for whatever turntable.

By the way, my tables are all sitting on one wall rack that runs 8ft along an outside wall at 4ft above the floor for convenience. I don’t have the issues some have by design and set up and table choices.

I have mine on heavy metal rack (my own design) placed on wooden floor for decades, no issues at all. All turntable are direct drive from Victor, Denon, Technics, Luxman. Look, I don’t have to destroy my walls, rack can be always placed on the floor.

But I know they exist and I know there is many more options and reasons and price points than just your narrow view for others to march too. Name dropping middle of the road models and brands like its the gold standard,..... then call others choices as toys and wastes of money...criticizing what you don’t own or know about in ignorance... it gets old the first time...let alone the thousandth..... now since you like to brand and model drop....I think I’ll switch to the P3 Exclusive tonight and pine my regret for letting my PD 444 go 4 decades ago ..... sleep tight Sheldon...😏

If funny when you think other people choices can hurt me, I am happy for your more expensive Pioneer P3, this is a very good example of properly isolated turntable and don’t tell me you need anything else under this turntable for better isolation, except for a proper rack or, if you wish, a wall mount. If you sold your less expensive Luxman turntable 40 years ago, how old are you ?

Enjoy what you have....sincerely...you can’t be enjoying or buying your own BS if you need to beat everything else down, ignorant of even how often you contradict yourself here...

Old people are like children sometimes, very sensitive.

I will continue to buy my own BS.

If a user need a pyramid of materials like butcher blocks, additional springs, spikes, bearings and all that stuff together then turntable design is very bad, let’s face it.

My philosophy is very simple:
Buy a nice turntable, put it on a hi-fi rack or on a nice table and enjoy the music!

And do not try to solve a non existing problem.


@has2be

You have no point. Just more blovient drek. You only make excuses when called out for your misinformed imperialistic opinions, period.
See, where did I even say I needed anything under or on or what rack stand I have. Your last post explicitly shows your inability to be inclusive of anything if it isn’t Chakster approved without any knowledge or experience on it....even when your own table contradicts the statements you make. Hindsight is 20 / 20 but having to BS shuffle explain your own statements constantly is just blind ignorance. If you had of thought of the springs in your table you wouldn’t of put your foot in your mouth and your head in the other end. Absurd..... still laughing at you thinking slate is graphite....

I did not get anything you posted.

Graphite is the color/finishing and the plinth in another thread was recommended due its DESIGN (not material), in every links I posted about "graphite plinth" in another thread you can clearly read "slate plinth". Maybe you can’t read? Something funny here? 

I wish others to find a properly designed turntable first to save on additional springs and isolation.

A good turntable isolated by designer who made a turntable with integrated plinth using feet and various damping materials. It's a final product. 

Always the mine is better BS , it’s the one constant you bring. Reality is.....you don’t. You have opinions based on your narrow view of the world according to you while dismissing all others and their choices. 

I can advice something only from my perspective and from my point of view, with my experience with many turntables. A bit of common sense always nice to add somethimes. 

I know , I know more than you ever will on many things audio and analog.....only because I learn from others experiences by listening to them ,and trying through experience.... while you disrespect and dismiss them for having differing views and tastes and ignorant of their needs and insulting their choices. 

You are just a snob if you post stuff like this.

Industry professional have been using turntables for over 40 years without any esoteric solutions. Look at the best broadcast studios.

Audiohiles like you always trying to hear that nobody can hear, they are trying to make things much more complicated for people who don't need it. 

Stop being an f n blowhorn and be inclusive and respectful of and to others. Or just keep driving people off here .... Thats the saddest part...everyone loses because of one pufferfish...

I could explain who you’re very simple in a few words, but I do not insult people on audiogon like you do now.

By the way, my tables are all sitting on one wall rack that runs 8ft along an outside wall at 4ft above the floor for convenience. I don’t have the issues some have by design and set up and table choices.

I have mine on heavy metal rack placed on wooden floor for decades, no issues at all. All turntable are direct drive from Victor, Denon, Technics, Luxman. Look, I don’t have to destroy my walls, rack can be always placed on the floor (very simple, you know).

But I know they exist and I know there is many more options and reasons and price points than just your narrow view for others to march too. Name dropping middle of the road models and brands like its the gold standard,..... then call others choices as toys and wastes of money...criticizing what you don’t own or know about in ignorance... it gets old the first time...let alone the thousandth..... now since you like to brand and model drop....I think I’ll switch to the P3 Exclusive tonight and pine my regret for letting my PD 444 go 4 decades ago ..... sleep tight Sheldon...😏

If funny when you think other people choices can hurt me, I am happy for your more expensive Pioneer P3, this is a very good example of properly isolated turntable and don’t tell me you need anything else under this turntable for better isolation, except for a proper rack or, if you wish, a wall mount. If you sold your less expensive Luxman turntable 40 years ago, how old are you ?

Enjoy what you have....sincerely...you can’t be enjoying or buying your own BS if you need to beat everything else down, ignorant of even how often you contradict yourself here...

Old people are like children sometimes, very sensitive.

I will continue to by my own BS because the BS people are using here is the worst SB or too expensive BS. If a user need a pyramid of materials like butcher blocks, additional springs, spikes, bearings and all that stuff together then turntable design is 100% BS, let’s face it.

My philosophy is very simple: Buy a nice turntable, put it on a hi-fi rack or on a nice table and enjoy the music!

You have no point. Just more blovient drek. You only make excuses when called out for your misinformed imperialistic opinions, period.
See, where did I even say I needed anything under or on or what rack stand I have. Your last post explicitly shows your inability to be inclusive of anything if it isn’t Chakster approved without any knowledge or experience on it....even when your own table contradicts the statements you make. Hindsight is 20 / 20 but having to BS shuffle explain your own statements constantly is just blind ignorance. If you had of thought of the springs in your table you wouldn’t of put your foot in your mouth and your head in the other end. Absurd..... still laughing at you thinking slate is graphite....

I did not get anything you posted.

Graphite is the color/finishing and the plinth recommended due its DESIGN (not material), in every links I posted about graphite plinth in another thread you can clearly read "slate plinth". Maybe you missed that?

I wish others to find a properly designed turntable first to save on additional springs and isolation.

A good turntable isolated by designer who made a turntable with integrated plinth using feet and various damping materials.

Always the mine is better BS , it’s the one constant you bring. Reality is.....you don’t. You have opinions based on your narrow view of the world according to you while dismissing all others and their choices. I know , I know more than you ever will on many things audio and analog.....only because I learn from others experiences by listening to them ,and trying through experience.... while you disrespect and dismiss them for having differing views and tastes and ignorant of their needs and insulting their choices.

You are just a sn*b if you post stuff like this.

Industry professional have been using turntables for over 40 years without any esoteric solutions. Look at the best broadcast studios.

Everybody can watch Chad Kassem and his mastering console at Asoustic Sounds for A/B comparison, do you see any isolation or springs under turntables, except for a massive wood table? Properly designed turntable must be placed direct on the table or rack. Here is an example of my custom made rack (not pained) for Luxman turntable, but I think everyone can make a custom rack for whatever turntable, but rack must be heavy, all those butcher blocks are too light, all those springs are unstable and turntable is shaking. 

Stop being an f n blowhorn and be inclusive and respectful of and to others. Or just keep driving people off here .... Thats the saddest part...everyone loses because of one pufferfish...

I could explain who you’re very simple in a few words, but I do not insult people on audiogon like you do now.

By the way, my tables are all sitting on one wall rack that runs 8ft along an outside wall at 4ft above the floor for convenience. I don’t have the issues some have by design and set up and table choices.

I have mine on heavy metal rack (my own design) placed on wooden floor for decades, no issues at all. All turntable are direct drive from Victor, Denon, Technics, Luxman. Look, I don’t have to destroy my walls, rack can be always placed on the floor.

But I know they exist and I know there is many more options and reasons and price points than just your narrow view for others to march too. Name dropping middle of the road models and brands like its the gold standard,..... then call others choices as toys and wastes of money...criticizing what you don’t own or know about in ignorance... it gets old the first time...let alone the thousandth..... now since you like to brand and model drop....I think I’ll switch to the P3 Exclusive tonight and pine my regret for letting my PD 444 go 4 decades ago ..... sleep tight Sheldon...😏

If funny when you think other people choices can hurt me, I am happy for your more expensive Pioneer P3, this is a very good example of properly isolated turntable and don’t tell me you need anything else under this turntable for better isolation, except for a proper rack or, if you wish, a wall mount. If you sold your less expensive Luxman turntable 40 years ago, how old are you ?

Enjoy what you have....sincerely...you can’t be enjoying or buying your own BS if you need to beat everything else down, ignorant of even how often you contradict yourself here...

Old people are like children sometimes, very sensitive.

I will continue to buy my own BS because the BS people are using here is the worst SB. If a user need a pyramid of materials like butcher blocks, additional springs, spikes, bearings and all that stuff together then turntable design is 100% BS, let’s face it.

My philosophy is very simple:
Buy a nice turntable, put it on a hi-fi rack or on a nice table and enjoy the music!


@has2be

Of course I will continue to buy and use beautiful things and I will post on this forum to help people to find alternative solution such as a proper turntable design insolated by its feet/plinth and a proper turntable rack to place any turntable on top of it without any special springs from a third party manufacturer under turntable feet to build a pyramid of different materials under their gear to make it looks ugly, pretending the sound will be better (this is ridiculous).

I told you before that industry professionals do not use anything like that and you can watch this. I have a tendency to trust industry professionals than audiophile snobs. And I don’t want to prove anything to you, at your age it’s too late to learn something.

We have enough oldies who recommend springs under everything in every post on audiogon. So this "school" very well represented on audiogon by one person.

If your furniture is not stable then RACK LIKE THIS is required under any turntable, this is perfect solution for everyone!

However, maybe I missed something, but I asked the OP why he asked for isolation platform? Is there any problems with his turntable, did he detect a problem? People on audiogon are happy to help someone to spend money, but sometimes it’s useless. Do not try to fix non existent problem. If someone is using "isolation platform" it’s not necessary that you must use the same under your turntable.