Thank you very much you really have been quite helpful. I listen to a lot of rock so I will look into the Svetlana's if the used amp I get does not have them already. I have the musical fidelity 3.2 right now and it is really good in many ways but I miss tubes. Who knows maybe I will keep both. But I wanted to try out a good tube amp and the CJ is just too expensive and I really do not have room for monos