Tube integrated


I am interesting in buying a tube integrated. I think my budget is around 3K - 5K range (new/demo/used) is fine. But I do want to get a decent one. The options are too many...but I do have some criteria.

1) Has to be aesthetically pleasing (which takes out the Primaluna stuff for now, else I’d consider them)
2) Push-pull Class A/B, I like to keep my electronics on always, and I am environmentally conscious, so I don’t want to just drain power with a Class A (Octave’s eco mode is very interesting in this regard)
3) Has to be at or above 30 WPC to drive my speakers as per their recommendation
4) Biasing has to be easy (auto is best, but manual bias with integrated meter is fine)
5) Prefer KT150/120/88 based stuff (I’m flexible here, just want KT150 if possible)
6) Prefer less noise, so high SnR like 90 or above
7) Volume control should be high quality, like stepped attenuattor
8) At least one XLR input

Don’t need phono/dac input, doesn’t have to be single ended (by default).

With that said, I think I like the Octave V70SE, V80SE, they fit the bill but above budget new. Really wanna check out the Lyric 140. I think these may be doable with the 5K (maybe a bit more) budget and demo/used condition.

What other options are out there?
nitewulf

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@yogiboy 
Hi, my main system is a solid sate seperates system. I wanna get a hassle free tube integrated for just to switch things up now and then. But if the sound is great then I just wanna keep it on. My eventual plan is to sell my SS separates and also replace it with a very high end SS integrated. I had a tube preamp before (Dehavilland Ultraverve3), and while great, I just don't know if I wanna get involved with tube separates. Else the Quicksilver Mono amps would be pretty desirable, very affordable and US made. 

@jerry_gt3rs 
Yes, their amps have the features that I like. Unfortunately it seems like if I want to play around with KT150s, I'd have to get the V80SE, else the V70SE would be perfect.

@czbbcl 
Fair enough, everything will be connected though, to the speakers. I feel turning then on and off puts extra stress on the tubes.

@willgolf
Ravens look great, but I feel they are a bit overpriced for the offering and compared to competition. However the Blackhawk LE is interesting, as is the Osprey.  The Reflection 2 has too many tubes for me to maintain.

As for others, the CAV45 is something I looked into before. I'd consider CJ stuff if I was looking for separates, but for an integrated, the CAV45 doesn't have a preamp stage, it's passive, and I'm not sure if I'l like the sound of it.

Cayin - this may be something to consider. 
@czbbcl 
Fair enough actually, that's why I want something with a good protection circuit, and I'll keep it off, I'm not too worried about warm up time I suppose, I don't think it takes more than 10 minutes or so to get an amp going.
@helomech Hah! that would explain the price.

@mr_m 
I have the all SS system, I want the tube amp to be all tube. But if I'm gonna keep it off, I suppose it could be Class A as well. As long as near 30 watts.
@1graber2 
The issue is XLR outout of some dacs are optimized/better than the RCA, my Metrum dac is one of these. But It's not a deal breaker or anything, I can use RCA as well, just prefer XLR.

@wolf_garcia 
I will look into the Jolida.

@jafant 
Yes, so far I believe Octave is leading. There's one for sale now. Just wondering what are the differences between the regular and SE versions.  Though since I prefer KT150's, I believe I could wait for a V80SE to come up within my range.
Also, I have Legacy Audio Signature SEs. I contacted them and was recommended to use tube amps at 30 WPC and above.  Though I have successfully drove them with a Coincident Dynamo SET, which is only 8 WPC, so I think 25 ish watts and above should be fine.  The Dynamo bottoms out at heavy electronic beats and the bass gets flabby, but for most music it works surprisingly well.
@cellcbern 
Excellent suggestion, I was looking for somewhat boutique exotic stuff, the S6 or the Sinfonia seem great looking and around the power I'd need. And reasonably priced.
During my search I've also come across Rogers EHF 100 and 200. The 200 uses KT150s but is out of range but I do see EHF 100s popping up now and then.  Any thoughts on these? Not a huge fan of the looks but fair enough, can't have it all.

@wolf_garcia  did mention them. Any thoughts from owners? They seem to be made very well.
Are you asking about it? BAT is one of the few companies that make balanced tube gear. Unfortunately they only make the one integrated and it's a hybrid. I'm not considering hybrids, as I do have a solid state system, I just want an alternative purely tube based. But BAT make good gear for sure.
@wolf_garcia , thanks, yeah I definitely looked into the Dennis Had amps, but they are typically one offs on ebay, if he took custom orders I'd be more interested.