Tube amp/ preamp advice


Hi everyone, I have bene listening to a Technics 1200 SL with a MM Nagaoka 110 cart for a number of years now. Primarily, I listen to rock, hip hop, electronic and jazz.

I am a purist at heart, and have always longed for the analog qualities of a tube amp and preamp. Looking to drive a set of la scalas with a woofer in tow. The space I will be moving my setup to is a loft above a 2800 square foot garage, so the la scalas seem like a good choice to really push some decibels.

Currently I am playing my technics through a pioneer receiver (cringe), however I am looking to go to a purely tube setup - I love the way my tube guitar amp sounds - its lively and warm qualities.

I'm here to ask for recommendations on a tube amp/ preamp config. I have been researching this for weeks and the amount of information/ selections are daunting. I keep jumping back and forth between integrated amps like the Linear Tube Audio, or MA352 but I really don't think an integrated is a future proof solution. I'm concerned that I will want more flexibility and be trapped with the integrated amps components.

Thank you for any suggestions

John 

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I’d stay away from flea powered amps.  800 sq.ft.is still a good size area.  You’ll need power particularly if you are going to crank it. Years ago, I had a friend who converted his garage into a party room.  About same size as your loft.  He had 4 Klipsch horn’s, one in each corner, powered by 2 large Mac SS amps, 400w-500w each.  He lived on a cul-de-sac and when he cranked it we would open the overhead doors, go outside and sit in the middle of the cul-de-sac circle to listen lol.

Thank you for all of your advice. I am very new to the tube world. I have always been smitten by the 275, I'll do some research on them. Preferably, I would like to have a preamp that is solely an amp, and no tuner integrated. Now that we've narrowed it down to a 275, can you make any recommendations for that? 

You need to actually hear your candidate amplifiers.  Tube amps are WAY more variable in sound than high quality solid state amps.  I personally don’t like the MC 275 amp, in particular, anything made in the past 25 years or so.  They sound so dead to me.  Obviously, a lot of others like them, do it is a personal preference.  

For the money you are budgeting, you should consider an integrated amp.  With some designs of amps, an integrated amp is essentially the same as the power amp with added input jacks, a source selector and a volume control—it costs relatively little to turn the amp into an integrated amp and the buyer gets some of the savings.  It would help to know what features you need in your amp, like, remote control, balance control etc.

I know you and I want separates, but consider Preamp AND Integrated for volume control.

One advantage of an integrated is they are typically newer with remote volume, that is why I bought my Cayin Integrated Tube Amp, so I could use my Vintage Full Featured mx110z tube tuner/preamp with no remote control, leave the mx110z volume at 12 o’clock, and use the Integrated’s remote volume for more or less.

To get remote balance, I added a Remote Line Controller, Chase RLC-1, it also has remote volume and mute (tone controls, 4 line inputs, ...): so I could have gone with a single or pair of MC275’s, any Vintage Tube Amp with no remote.

this SOLD listing shows it well

You MUST have the remote, no controls on the unit, 

I also use one in my Garage/Shop system thru the adapter loop of my Vintage Yamaha Receiver so I have remote mute and volume when working on projects. Over many years, in all 3 of my systems: No one has ever been able to tell if it is in or out, you silently get the benefit of it’s features. 

Chase RLC-1 also has automatic/progressive bass boost for very low volume listening.

It’s sitting on top of a Sony Front Loading Drawer type FL-1 TT which I got so I could fit more legacy components in the stack below it: 8 Track, Dual Cassette; CD Changer