Trenner & Friedl Sun


Hi all, thinking about buying Trenner & Friedl Suns for a small nearfield set up, mostly analog listening with a Belles Aria Integrated. Has anyone heard these who can comment on them. I know there are lots of alternatives, mostly I am looking for the opinion of folks who have heard or own these speakers.

regg

Quinster, welcome to the forum. I actually finally got a pair for home edition in a midfield/nearfield set up (about 6-8 ft away) in use with a Belles Aria integrated. The combination is fantastic. I agree with your findings. The Suns sound fantastic driven by the Belles Aria Integrated . It’s 65WPC is more than enough to drive them. They are an amazing little speaker in the right set up, and I agree they need a good amount of SS power. But boy when they get that power they are shockingly good. Of course they are limited by their size, but in the right set ip I highly recommend them!

Hi all! First post!

I am running them on a nearfield setup: I listen 6 feet away from them in a tiny space with not-great acoustics. They are on shelves, higher than they should (but canted down to counteract it) and about 5 inches from the wall, which needed some acoustic foam behind them to balance boominess. 

 I listen to Jazz mostly and small ensembles classical. My dB meter averages around 52 dBs. and peaks at  60 dB. at the listening position, So not very loud. Below these levels, I need to engage the Loudness button on my Luxman (Class A 30w/60w into 8Ω/4Ω).

In my very non-ideal context, they sound full and dynamic. If I sit closer than 6 feet, the sensation remains.

I believe the Suns like an abundance of current, favoring solid state over tubes. This seems to be backed by your experience with the Elixir and the Leben. 

I have and it will take a few months to get my hands on a pair to audition. Kind of impatient so was looking for others who have them. It is interesting to me that I don’t hear much about them nowadays but after the Stereophile review they were discussed often. I did hear them at the dealer and as I stated, with the right amp I was surprised by how good those little boxes sounded. They aren’t anywhere near the “best stand mounted speakers” as the review suggested, but in my limited review of them I was quite impressed.

I was lucky because the Trenner & Friedl dealer in my area works out of his home and brings gear to the customer's location for audition. As I suggested before, contact the distributor and ask about options for auditioning.

I have the P’3’s in another room nearfield and I agree they are amazing with acoustic music and voice. The room I am setting up now requires the smallest form factor I can manage so the Sun’s would be perfect. This room is isolated so I can play them louder, but I really would love to hear opinions from people who have had them for a while. Listening at the dealer is not the same as long term listening and home audition may be difficult. Anyone out there have them who can give some opinions?

Funny that you would mention Harbeth P3's, because they were what I ended up choosing. I listen mostly to classical music, and Harbeth is excellent at realistic reproduction of unamplified acoustic instruments and voice.

I listen 4 feet away from speakers on my nearfield desktop system. With the Suns, I wanted to turn the volume up for better sound and listen from farther away. I loved the tiny size and clean design and really wanted it to work, but at close range it was louder than I want for music listening. The P3 does well playing low volume at close range.

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Thanks mspot, that is very helpful. I heard the speakers at a dealer with two different amps, a Heed Elixer ( which is often demoed with these speakers) and a Leben 600. The pairing with the Heed was shockingly good but the Leben just didn’t work. I was about 8 feet away in a small listening room. My listening position will be about 6 feet away in a small room with very good acoustics. I would like for the Suns to work because the small form factor is perfect. Even Harbeth P3’s would be a little big but would work wonderfully. I will try to demo them but they are hard to get. Doesn’t look like many on the forum have these since there are not many responses

I had the Trenner & Friedl Suns on home audition when I was setting up my nearfield system a few years ago. I felt that the volume needed to be turned up to a moderate level before they came to life, notably the bass. Nearfield is close range playing at lower volume, which made them sound thin and undynamic. I feel that they are better suited for midfield listening (at least 6 ft), driven at a higher volume.

You should audition them and see if they would work out for you. If you are in the US, ask T&F's distributor Profundo (https://profundoaudio.com/contact-us) about dealers in your area and options for auditioning.