Transparent Bi-Cable

Is it as good as it's supposed to be for B&W 802D? If yes, why did they stop producting Bi-Cables?

antonkk02-11-2011 1:49pm

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antonkk OP Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 137 posts 02-12-2011 at 08:32am Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete Well, my Mcintosh 6900 certainly doesn't seem to agree that they are an easy load. Sounds pretty miserable most of the time.
antonkk OP Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 137 posts 02-12-2011 at 03:10pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete The important question is what's the sonic differences between the XL, MM and MM2 lines?
antonkk OP Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 137 posts 02-11-2011 at 10:53pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete Stanwal, I have 802D.
antonkk OP Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 137 posts 02-11-2011 at 08:57pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete No, I think Bi-Wire and Bi-Cable are different designs. I'm interested in Bi-Cable since it was designed for difficult to drive speakers like B&W. Makes sense but leaves more questions than answers - the difficult B&Ws didn't go anywhere - why then Transparent gave up on the idea? Was it not worth the extra cost?
antonkk OP Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 137 posts 02-12-2011 at 03:43pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete JFrech, thanx for your analysis. What would you recommend for my B&W 802Ds - XL Super Bi-Cable or MM2 ULtra Bi-Wire?
antonkk OP Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 137 posts 02-12-2011 at 08:49pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete Thanx! My main problem right now is the lack of power in the bass region with weak and muddy bass. I've been told that Bi-Cable makes you feel that your amp is much more powerful and that's how I got hooked. Are you sure the MM2 Ultra will do a better job with the bass even without a bi-cable configuration?
antonkk OP Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 137 posts 02-13-2011 at 10:55am Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete Another question is how does the Transparent Ultra compare to the MIT Shotgun?
antonkk OP Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 137 posts 02-13-2011 at 07:07pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete I tried all taps, 8 is the only one listenable. I know that the cable will not transform my 6900 into 501 monoblocks but some cables are more dynamic than others and 802's are astonishingly sensitive to any cable changes as well as cable quality.
antonkk OP Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 137 posts 02-13-2011 at 07:10pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete Jfrech, I was using Cardas Neutral Reference (way too muddy and grey sounding) and Siltech Anniversary (way too sharp and sterile with weak bass). Right now I don't even have any good cables. The best ones so far were MITs though I haven't auditioned any serious line like Shotguns. I'm certain that I need a copper cable (no silver for me) with full bodied sound.
antonkk OP Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 137 posts 02-17-2011 at 09:53am Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete Since Ultra wasn't available I auditioned Music Wave Plus MM2 and frankly the only thing that I liked about it was a deep, holographic soundstage. Everything else is pretty poor - bass and highs are rolled off (up to everything sounding weird with bass trailing somewhere far beyond the drums) and there is only one tonal colour - grey. Plus the level of speed and detail is really poor. Unless Ultra is lightyears above in terms of everything I mentioned these are not the cables for me.
antonkk OP Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 137 posts 02-17-2011 at 08:31pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete It was Plus not Super unfortunately. And yes, I was suprised myself how poor the bass was. It was a broken in demo.

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