Tonian Labs vs Musical Affairs


I'm very interested in speakers that use a PHY driver. Musical Affairs and Tonian Labs seem to be two of the leaders and of similar design. I would especially appreciate comparisons between the speakers of these two companies but will welcome any opinions on PHY equipped speakers.
phaelon

Musical affairs...if they sound so good through a vimeo video
then something special is going on

http://vimeo.com/36650682
The Tonians are superb - and a bargain.

I own two pairs (D1 and Classic) and have had two other pairs in my system.

Tonian's re-worked ribbons are the best I've heard.

The 12" PHY driver is remarkable (less so the 8").

Bob
Here's the burning question on my mind: The reviews of most PHY speakers that I've seen have been positive. I haven't heard anything negative on Tonian labs - quite the contrary. So why, when it seems like such a sizable number of audio enthusiasts are calling for efficient, high impedance speakers, is their so little relative enthusiasm for this design?
Prcinka, What other PHY speakers have you heard, over which you preferred Ocellia ?

Glide3, I see from another thread that you've owned quite a few speakers. I've been told that PHY speakers offer quite a different listening experience compared with more conventional designs - I currently own JM Lab Mini Utopias. Can you either elaborate on or debunk what I've heard?

Thanks guys
I have owned two pairs of the Tonians (TLM-1 originals and Classic 12.1s) Currently have the classics. They are excellent. I have heard the Ocellia Kedros in my system in comparison with the TLM-1's and while both are excellent I thought the Tonian was an overall better design with a better bottom end, top end and overall dynamics.
I like the Classic 12.1s at least as well as the original TLM-1's.

I have not heard the musical affairs.

I am a fan of the PHY and Raven drivers and think Tonian is doing a great job with these in their speakers.
and what about Ocellia? These are one of the best I have had with the Phy driver.....