Tonearm for Technics SP-15


I have a Technics SP-15 turntable with a Grace 707 arm and a Grace F9E cartridge with a Soundsmith new stylus.  This combination sounds great but is limiting.  The 707  tonearm has a fixed headshell and it does not allow me to easily swap other MM  high compliance catridges or match compliance requirments MC cartridges.  Suggestions welcome from those more expert than I.  

arneama22

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EPA-250 Tonearm and B500 Base are beautifully engineered and manufactured.

B500 Base in perfect cosmetic condition had: 1. Frozen Arm Lifter and 2. Frozen Anti-Skate. Presumably stored a long time. Seller may have been unaware.

Tough decision: mess with it, or return it ..... I've never seen one, but Arne trusted me, I had my tools .......

IF anyone encounters these problems with this magnificent base:

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1. Arm lifter, 3 parts.

1a. top hand control lever, moves horizontally, it moved, but the actual lifter it activates was frozen

1b. round brass pin, less than 1/8" diameter, moves gently up and down about 1/4". It was frozen. When assembled, the pin is concealed by part 1c.

1c. curved black plastic piece, fastens to round pin 1b by a small screw, to both attach and to allow slight height adjustment on the pin.

The lifter was fully down, frozen in place, so low that the height adjustment screw was within the base, inaccessible

SOLUTION

A. very very slight repeated pressure to pry the lifter up (avoid marking base's finish), just up enough to allow access to the screw to remove top piece part 1c.

B. now able to grip the top of the round brass pin with small pliers and gently but forcefully raise and lower the pin, bit by bit. Avoid gripping the pin anywhere except the top portion, you do not want the part that recedes into the base to lose it's perfect surface. 

C. after some up/dn movement: spin the pin in a circular rotation bit by bit, that finally gave a slight sense of freedom, enough I felt to allow some lubricant to get 'down' alongside the pin. 

D. lubricant, just a few drops: sewing machine, liquid bearing, some fine lubricant. not the damping fluid, this is just for the sliding surface of the circular pin, not much is needed

E. slowly but surely the damping fluid within came to life, move the top lever, the pin raises. Heat transferred from your hands while working? Perhaps a hair dryer, a bit of warmth might have helped, but I didn't think of it till now.

F. reattach black plastic part c. I started 'high', IOW, kept the piece just low enough for the screw to tighten onto the pin, thus ok, or lower it a speck. happily this worked perfectly with no further adjustment.

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2. Anti-Skate Dial. The outer ring which is supposed to spin was frozen. I have no idea what is within that it activates when it rotates.

A. My thumbs still hurt, but you just have to get it moving, speck by speck, repeatedly move bit by bit, quite a lot back and forth, but eventually, just when you think your thumb is going to bleed, it freed up. Because I wasn't sure what was happening within, I wanted enough sense of motion, like the lifter, that I hoped the innards as well as the outer ring were moving. IOW, just barely being able to rotate it might not have been enough. Some heat from a hair dryer might have helped?

Happily, after install, when calibrating, it worked, however, the dial number did not correspond to the tracking force number (most do not I find). I used my groove-less LP, manually spin, watch the inward/outward movement, set is with very slight inward rather than very slight outward movement. Listened, L/R, balance of familiar imaging sounded 'right on'.

WHEW!

OH HAPPY DAY!

btw, If you buy a B500 Base, try and get the OEM phono cable, it has an integral ground pin that goes into the fitting on the bottom of the base.

7th photo here

 

this one, a separate pin/ground wire was improvised, works great I’m sure, allows your cable choice, just be aware

. also note: the base rca jacks are on the side (not the bottom).

 

chakster, jason

OP is a close personal friend with a wonderful sounding system.

mc, He has absolutely no vibration concerns.

that Arm looks like a winner, and I see it has VTA on the Fly, that’s a wonderful thing.

this one was listed recently, seems a darn good price

 

seller has it on yahoo auctions also.

chakster, others,

 

If looking for a used EPA-100, what are the things to be concerned about?

questions to ask? 

OTHER ARMS with VTA on the FLY that fit on the SP15?

VTA on the FLY seems to be the feature to have to make swapping headshells easy enough to do it without hesitation. One arm, 3 headshells: a MM, a MC, a Mono, ready to go.

Other that the bejeweled EPA 100 or 250, there must be other maker’s arms that fit.

JVC Victor 7045?

Is JVC Victor 7085 too long to fit under the dust cover?

Acos Lustre GST-801 should fit, I can measure mine.

other VTA/FLY models that fit?

Reminder: REMOVABLE HEADSHELL

 

Acos Lustre GST-1 appears to have an early version of their VTA on the Fly.

Would GST-1 fit on a Technics SP15?

do we like this arm? concerns?

Does anyone know if the gst-1 will fit on the SP15?

spindle to pivot ____mm ?

pivot to back of counterweight?

height of gimbal from top of arm wand?

height: to get ’up’ high enough for the SP15 platter height, is a spacer below the arm needed, or the arm post long enough?

ralph,

my friend has a unit in a plinth with a dust-cover. it looks like OEM Technics to me, I could check. Grace arm is in a circular removable board, also looks OEM, with a long oval cutout for various lengths.

removable arm board looks like this

(seller says fits 9 or 12 sme arms

 

the platter has a wide rim, so I am not sure how short an arm will fit. chakster said 10.5" or 12".

 

so it’s not too short or not too long and the fastening from below has to work with the structure of the plinth.

I therefore don’t know if the 7045 is too short, and I was hoping someone knew, if the 7082’s 282mm (11-1/8") spindle to pivot, and the diameter of the arms base plate are long enough/small enough to not hit the rectangular platter housing.

next to last lousy photo here shows the underside, we would need to verify what my friend has

thanks, Elliott

Plinth is Technics SH-15B3.

Plinth manual says arm lengths: spindle to arm pivot (sap): 206 to 235 (sap = effective length minus overhang)

rear portion of arm: for 206 sap is max 110mm; for 235 sap is max 97

https://www.vinylengine.com/library/technics/sh-15b3.shtml

 

Yes, I have an SME 3009, sliding plate, but no VTA on the FLY.

I found a GST-1 just listed in New Zealand, sliding plate with VTA on the Fly, and magnetic anti-skate

I'm pretty sure it will fit his SP15 Plinth, would need to confirm the rear length and height.

seems to be a good price

 

just for the record, both technics EPA-100 and EPA-250 are 235mm + 15mm overhang = 250mm effective length, the maximum length for the SP15 OEM bases.

that's 9-7/8" effective length.

Once ’restored to movement’ and lift height adjusted: I was impressed with the quality and precision of all adjustable features, the VTA on the fly as simple as you can get. Solid mount, quality connection system below.

I prefer their method of changing the arm with the connectors integral with the base and each arm.

VPI’s system, unipivot, you need to disconnect a mini-din connector, now dangling on tonearm wires, and carefully move alternate arm with similar dangling mini-din connector.

As for sound, well that is another matter, I find the cartridge the contributing factor, so easy to change on EPA 250 arm with removable headshell, especially with easy VTA ....

Single arm, several cartridges i.e. stereo, mono, elliptical, MM, MC, refined stylus shape ... this is one of the best choices IMO.