Tone arm plug in RCA cable?

@cleeds  : Even what you don't " eat " makes damage to you.  ! ! !

R.

Hey @rauliruegas your insistence on calling users here "stupid" is  disruptive. Please stop it. Please. I'm asking you nicely.

Series II Improved: 1973-2003, 260,484 built

SME Series V 1984 - 2022 (Possibly to be Superseded and not offered any longer)

One Model has 30 Years of Production, the other has 38 Years of Production.

The overlap in the Market Place of the Two models is seemingly 20 Years, and as a wild conjecture, if keeping it contained to using an average of the gross sales figure, it could be assessed that during the Two Tonearms overlap period as a sale item, there were potentially 173,656 sales of the Series II Tonearm.

With this as a evidence, it does seem extremely difficult to come to the conclusion that SME were of the opinion:

"SME took in count its mistake with the knife bearing switched at once for the great SME V till today"   

It would also seem that during the time of the launch of the SME V, that the Series II was competing for a market share against other Brands  Knife Edge Bearing Tonearm Designs.  I got the math wrong previously on the gross sales, so I will try and hold off repeating that one.

Maybe another might like to take a stab at how many Knife Edge Tonearms were sold from all Brands during the First 20 Year period of the SME V being a sale item.

Wouldn't it be nice to be able to compare the marketing data for the sales of the SME V along side the gross figure.

I can't resist, I reckon, as a wild guess, there were close to 500 000 very contented and happy, 'not stupid' , Knife Edge Bearing Tonearm users during this period.

  I have followed certain obsessive types posts on here for quite some time, and have been under impressed with the very noticeable intent to destroy a reasonable inquiry.

I have been under impressed by the certain obsessive type who's unconstrained displays of brutishness, where there is a noticeable comfort in their expressing themselves directly toward another.  Especially an individual who is open and with admirable honesty and for these enjoyed traits, is met with their antithesis and offered a barrage of insults that escalate down to a personal level.

As I have made it know before I seem reasonably adept at identifying this type of individual, and class this type as an individual as one to be avoided at all cost. 

@cleeds  : for this kind of posts I use the word stupid and not as an insult:

" very contented and happy, 'not stupid' , Knife Edge Bearing Tonearm users during this period. "

Obviously that SME manufacturer  learned the necessity to change its tonearm bearing design. Everyone has the rigth to learn: manufacturers and audiophiles.

Ignorance/very low knowledge levels is not an excuse for stupidity.

Common sense.

R.

rauliruegas

 

Does not need it. Thank's.

R.

I understand that English is not your first language, but I’ve told you before: the word "stupid" is English is an insult. There is no debate. So please stop calling users here stupid. I’m really trying to be nice about this but you’re derailing this conversation and I’m not going to ask you again, @rauliruegas .

Well in general I agree.
And I can only speak for myself to say I do not mind,

 

@holmz : Again you don’t read carefully. The knife problem was already explained in your threads by mijostyn and Dr, S.Win. but if that is what you like fine because who have to be satisfied is you not me.

 

R

You make reference to posts by Dr S. Win and also to @mijostyn , but do not easily see them.
Do they tell me what I hear?
(Or do they give me theory’s?)

I have asked a few times now how this manifests in sound.

I did put in the a new phono stage today, and things are better… No A/B test, but it seems a lot better in bass and MR, and perhaps some extra ability to cope with hot recordings.
And just better all around. I might be wrong, but I am happy to be wrong.

Interconnects also changed, as the new one is single ended and the old one was balanced both on and out.

so more than one thing changed.

@holmz , it is always good to be happy with the results. I certainly hate it when I am not.

Not theory holmz but fact by design. As for effects on sound quality this is always hard to quantify. Whenever we buy new equipment it is unlikely that we have had the chance to listen to and use it in our own systems. We depend on analysis of the design, experience, and reviews/ratings. Mechanical devices like tonearms are relatively easy to assess if you understand what the device is supposed to do. Does the knife edge vertical bearing in your arm affect the sound quality? I have no idea. Can it? You bet. Under the right circumstances a transient at the right frequency in an offset arm can cause the knife to click as it is momentarily lifted off it's edge. Tap the back of the arm lightly with a small screw driver and the volume up and you will get the picture. Whether this can actually be happening with a given arm and cartridge combination is difficult to predict but, it is possible which is why people like @rauliruegas and myself would never even consider such an arm. If we could test the combination before we buy it this might be different but we can't. There are so many great arms with incredible bearing designs there is no need to even consider either knife edge bearings or unipivots.

@holmz , it is always good to be happy with the results. I certainly hate it when I am not.

Not theory holmz but fact by design. As for effects on sound quality this is always hard to quantify. Whenever we buy new equipment it is unlikely that we have had the chance to listen to and use it in our own systems. We depend on analysis of the design, experience, and reviews/ratings. Mechanical devices like tonearms are relatively easy to assess if you understand what the device is supposed to do. Does the knife edge vertical bearing in your arm affect the sound quality? I have no idea. Can it? You bet. Under the right circumstances a transient at the right frequency in an offset arm can cause the knife to click as it is momentarily lifted off it's edge. Tap the back of the arm lightly with a small screw driver and the volume up and you will get the picture. Whether this can actually be happening with a given arm and cartridge combination is difficult to predict but, it is possible which is why people like @rauliruegas and myself would never even consider such an arm. If we could test the combination before we buy it this might be different but we can't. There are so many great arms with incredible bearing designs there is no need to even consider either knife edge bearings or unipivots

Very clear and well put @mijostyn .
 

If it is doing a tap dance trick, then it would only be doing it with the hot passages, and low compliance carts.

I know which albums to take with me now, to use for evaluating arms if the tracks are wookpeckering the knife edge, by levering it up.

I have always had problems with hot passages and maybe it is the arm?

I have had the thing for damn near 40 years.

And I am on my:

• 4th or 5th cartridge
• 3rd phono stage.
• 5th or 6th belt

@holmz , you have tried changing everything else so this is a good possibility. If you want to knock it out of the park go for an arm/cartridge combination that are known to be top notch trackers. The better Soundsmith cartridges, any Lyra, the Ortofon Winfeld Ti or Verisimo in the Reed 2G, Schroder CB, or Tri Planar are great examples. I'm sure there are more but these are the ones I know for a fact will perform at the head of the pack in regards to tracking. Also remember that once a record has been miss-tracked it is likely to be permanently damaged and will continue to distort in the same way. Some cases of "miss-tracking" are really just poor pressings. It is much easier to tell when you are confident in your set up. With cartridges that are borderline trackers you can never be sure. A cartridge can be wonderful, warm and romantic sounding but, if it can't track it is worthless as far as I am concerned. Damaged records are never an option.

Thanks @mijostyn I’ll start looking.

Sorry to go off topic, but whatever happened to miller carbon!

I think MC has his own web site. 

Thank you