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To Wilson Maxx I, I or IIII owners, or any Wilson speaker owners

I have heard that speakers will disappear, when they're set up correctly.  The only time I've experienced this, is when I had a pair of Martin Logan Monoliths.  It took me literally years, to figure out the panels I placed on both sides of them etc. Completely different sound, just sayin.  My present placement is 54" from the side walls and 42" from the back walls-slightly towed in.  I have tried every which way but loose, as far as the distance from each wall and the toe-in angle.  Really wide and more towed in.  Let me be clear-I have a VERY good sound stage and image, vocals are coming from right in front of me, but when I look at them (this may sound weird) I can hear the speaker.  I basically have an equilateral triangle , as far as my listening position goes.  Does anyone out there have the Wilsons and are not experiencing this?  Don't get me wrong-they sound absolutely fantastic, but as far as "disappearing"-not so much.  I did achieve this when listening to the "White Album", but it was mixed differently.  Thought I had it solved, till I played a more modern LP..  FYI-I have mucho sound absorption- up, down, rear and first reflection points.  I'm in the process of building QRD diffusers, but it will be a few more months till I get them completed.(a QRD-23 in the front and a couple of QRD-11's in the back).  I loved the sound of the Martin Logans, but like the sound of full frontal, in your face, better.  Maybe I'm expecting too much?  FYI have Krell FPB-600 monoblocks pushing the Wilson's.
handymann

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handymann OP
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Shadorne:
Thanks for your response.  I'm not exactly clear where you're suggesting I put up an edge.  Please try to describe in detail exactly what you're referring to.

handymann OP
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Shadorne
It appears you have adhered small triangle shaped pieces of felt, to the speaker body around the tweeter and midrange section, that has raised the shoulder of said speakers ever so slightly.  Is this what I'm seeing?
Handymann
handymann OP
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gpgr4blu
Thanks for your input about my speaker set up. I just used the term equilateral as a general idea. I have my speakers aprox 9’ apart and am not quite 11’ back. I know what Wilson says about just being able to see the inner most sides of the speaker slightly. Always open to suggestions.
handymann OP
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fdpdk
That's a good idea.  I never think of the simple things...
handymann OP
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Shadorne
So what you're basically saying, is to put a piece of felt over the surface of the speaker, where the mids and tweeters are located, cutting out a hole for the speakers?  That would raise the face the thickness of a standard piece of felt.
handymann OP
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Hi Spar. I understand about the small adjustments. I think I even posted here one time as little as 1/4" can make huge difference. I have spent hours doing this and more. I need to post a picture of my room I guess. I pretty much almost have each side of my room symmetrical-almost. Same goes for the back and front. One thing I am using that may make a difference, is a three seat leather sofa, instead of a single chair. 
handymann OP
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Shadorne:  What effect do u think a 3 seat leather sofa, instead of a single seat chair would have?  I have the sofa. 
handymann OP
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Shadorne:
The pic I see of the Dunlavy's looks more like a semi-thick weather striping.  My eyes aren't the best though.  As I said-what effect do you think a 3 seat leather sofa has, instead of a single seat chair?
handymann OP
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Shadorne:  This is going to sound like I'm a moron, but I've been so hung up on being seated in Exactly the middle and moving my speakers, etc, never thought about moving my sitting position. Moved about six inches to the right and as Gomer would say, which is who I feel like, Shazam-no speakers. Must be my room. Hate to admit that-Getting old. Trying to make it too hard. I had tried adjusting the balance, but no help. Image was always great, so just didn't think about it. BTW-the single chair also makes a huge difference. Also, speakers are towed at a slightly different angle from each other. 👍 (The wilsons already have a foam surrounding. Wasn't home during all of this and couldn't remember. 
handymann OP
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Dear Dave:
I have an Aesthetix Rhea Signature phono preamp and an Aesthetix Calypso, getting ready to be upgraded to a Signature model.  I mainly play LP's and am using a Koetsu Urishi Black and a Dynavector  DRT XV-1S carts.  Everything is a very good match.  Thanks for your suggestion.
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