Tidal Sunray vs Gryphon Trident


Interesting if anyone had a chance to compare this great speakers!
I respect very much both of this companies.
I did AB comparisions between their amps and pre.
For my taste Gryphon Colosseum was better than Tidal Impact, but
Tidal Preos was better than Gryphon Mirage.
So now I want to get new speakers and going to compare Tidal Sunray with Gryphon Trident.
They are very much different.
Sunray is all ceramic drivers with dimond tweeter.
Trident is traditional but with 1000watt A/B class amp embedded for LF.
Any opinions?
murataltuev

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The only problem of full Gryphon system is their source Mikado.
With great source Gryphon easily can compete with any system in the world, I believe!
It was standard Amea!
When I said bright about Tidal, may be it was cables...who knows.
System was all Tidal.
When I have it in my system, I'll tell for sure.
Currently I'm not very happy with bass control with my Atlantis.
Contriva has limited bass for my taste, so I'll look for Sunray.
Mike, thank you very much for your input.
Have you heard them in the same setup or different?
Pinkus, I know Tidalists. I'm also one of them because it is really outstanding brand. You need to try.
During Moscow HighEnd show the only room with good sound was Tidal's room. Small Amea speakers sounds better than all the rest of the whole show.
In general Gryphon is a bit too analytical, but not Colosseum!
It is great amp!
Tidal I think may be a bit too bright, but I prefer bright then dark.
This will be very interesting comparision.
I'll post review here!
Linkster, I need bass able to move my sofa:)
Rtn1, I agree with you! I'm also skeptical that a company can make every component outstanding.
For now I know that Gryphon has a great amp and Tidal great preamp. I'll test the rest.
Mike, I think at this level of transparency and neutrality speakers just shows how is the source and electronics.
Both times I heard Tidal, I heard it with Continuum Caliburn and I was so much impressed with this source that definately will have it in my system soon. Both times I heard Trident with Mikado. I had Mikado and replaced it as it is much lower class and not comparable with any vinyl setup.
Trident perfectly works in any room, big or small.
Sunray looks like prefers big rooms.
My room is relatevly small, arround 30-35sqm.
So, I'm not so sure that Sunray will win.
3 days with Trident and I'm very impressed!
Can't imagine if any speaker can be comparable with Trident.
Can't even comment on sound.
I hear only Big Symphonic Orchestra...live!..and really BIG!
Never expirienced anything like this before!
Will see what Sunray can do.
General resolution is much lower than Gryphon.
It is like sitting far away from the orchestra.
I prefer first row and Trident brings you even to the conductor place.
I know that many don't like 1st row, but I like.
And all my "fighting" with audiosystem is for resolution!
Highest possible resolution.
Tidal sound is magical.
It has perfect timbers.
Very comfortable and musical sound.
My solid state system sounds like tube system.
But I prefer "monitor" type of sound, not "musical" type.
So, it is the matter of taste!
Yes, I understand. Everyone is for the trees and the forest, I believe.
Here you choose more trees, or more forest.
I prefer more trees. 1-3 row on live concert is my reference.
And to this reference Trident is closer, that's all.
It has some timber inaccuracy in high frequencies, so I'll continue my search. Hope to get Kaiser Kawero.
Luthcol, thank you for comment. We have one in Moscow and I'm going to get it for audition at home.
Rtn1, I understand your position. I also mean forest AND trees.
And I'm sure that everyone is looking for the same: as close to real as possible.
What I mean is that listening from 1st row and from 10th is very big difference. Most of recording made from microphones which are placed near the instruments, so the real accurate reproduction must bring you very close to orchestra. And if not, than this is coloration.
It is my opinion, but who knows the truth?
My list is what is available in Moscow for audition at home.
Do you mean that KK has limited bass range?
Tbg, are you happy with bass range of Contrivas?
I think it is very limited. Can not move the floor:)
Arround 10th of October I'll have KK in my home.
Will post my impressions.
I'm looking for the speakers unlimited in all frequency range.
I understand that without lowest bass system can be great anyway.
Amea is one of the best speakers on earth, I believe.
I heard once japaniese drums 2m size in one system.
That was incredible impression!
Floor, walls, everything shakes without any bloom!
This is what I'm looking for!
Tbg, interesting experiment. I also tried to pair Sunray with JL Audio Fathom 13". But can't find right configuration for sub. It always sounds separated. I think it is not easy to do.
But at the end, my Gryphon Atlantis has greater bass than Trident or Sunray.
Actually, I'm thinking to stop my search.
I did acoustic cables from 2 Argento SMREE power cords and now like very much what I have. Also interesting and unexpected finding:)