Those who seek to deny access to information


Like many/most here, one of the main reasons I frequent audiogon is to gather information. I am looking for ways to enhance the enjoyment I get from listening to music on my system. The information most valuable to me comes from those who share their actual experience with products that I am interested in, but have not heard in my system.

The audio community is a diverse one, with many opinions, ideas and perspectives. Many of them differ from mine, and that is fine. Those who disagree with me are free to make posts and start threads about whatever they choose. This doesn’t bother me, I am free to choose what I read, and what I don’t.

What does rile me up up is deliberate attempts to deny me (and others) access to the information that I value. There are some here who repeatedly seek to disrupt, sidetrack, derail, and shut down conversations about topics and products that trigger them. They do not contribute any useful information or experience to the discussion, and make disparaging comments about things they have zero experience with. They are bullies who mock, ridicule and provoke those who use, make and sell certain products. They seek to stifle any discussions about, and especially positive opinions of, the products and people they clearly have a vendetta against.

They can start their own threads, and talk about what a fool I am all day long, I don’t care. Their deliberate and repeated attempts to deny myself and others access to the information we value, however, are intolerable.

tommylion

Showing 8 responses by mapman

I don’t see where the forums are stopping anyone from being serious audiophiles. It’s actually much easier to get really good sound these days than ever. So in that sense more successful audiophiles than ever. Times change. Gotta get with the times. Just keep it civil and be respectful of others! That should never change.  No need to never be satisfied in order to join the club. 

My thread about the prototype discs was taken down.

Saw that and was quite surprised.

 

Maybe for venom being spewed (looks bad for the site)?   Maybe Agon taking a tougher stand wanting vendors to pay for advertisements?   Just guessing.

 

You generally have to violate a rule for something to get deleted or OPs can delete their own threads.

Most threads about products where people don't get carried away tend to stick around.

 

 

 

 

There are no churches here.

Preachers are obviously not in short supply. 
 

Just the facts ma’am….

BTW I am not anti-tweak. My system is highly "tweaked" to get it to sound the way it does. Lots of sweat over the years and a significant $$$ investment. Just don’t beat me over the head if I am not on the same page as another on any specific topic. I will share what I can if I think relevant and move on, but not beat people over the head about it.

When people attack others for challenging essentially vacant products, my shill alarm goes off. Vacant meaning very limited information available other than the advertised effect on the sound. These products can’t stand on their own so they need people stationed here to defend at all costs and the only ammo the defenders have to do that is they say it sounds good, you know nothing if you do not buy and try, and generally trying to bully others into submission. In some cases if you try and do not hear the benefits they will then attack your hearing ability or system. Happens over and over and very disgusting over time. Just part of being here. Tweak products generate lots of transactions I’m sure and are advertised all over the place here which is fine because it is a business first and forum second. Just be aware.  The tweak defenders want to silence you.  They can't just state their case and move on like is the norm.