@mijostyn : " but I cannot say there is any advantage in a diamond cantilever over boron, ruby or cactus spine. " That was your very specific " dude ", you not even mentioned " everything the same " but in your next post following my answer you said you know everything about YM but you just fogeret and like tomic posted " but there is more at play such as cantilever mass and dimensions ". A way unwise post and that's why I just ignored the tomic post about. R. |
Dear @lewm : It can looks that way but it's not builded of one pice, this is absolutely sure. Not even its vintage top of the line 13D.
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@mijostyn : " I cannot say there is any advantage in a diamond cantilever over boron, ruby or cactus spine.. " There are one critical advantage of diamond for cantilevers and it’s about stifness ( Young Modulus ) where diamond hast the higher YM spec followed by boron and where ruby/sapyre are really poor in this regards.
Your Atlas Lambda comes with boron cantilever and a cover of diamond, j.carr knows a lot about and that’s why he does not use ruby or other inferior materials for cartridge cantilevers. Btw, normal micro ridge stylus shape is made by Namiki.
Here about Young modulus materials: Ruby is around 250 vs over 700 in the boron not showed in the link:
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Dear @tomic601 : No, chackster owns no single cartridge with cantilever diamond even he does not likes LOMC that are the only cartridges with diamond cantilevers. chackster here in Agon was a seller of vintage MM/MI cartridges, as a fact when he appeared in Agon he had not very good cartridge knowledge levels he learned almost all here in Agon mainly through the long MM thread.
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Dear @mijostyn " I'm sure your Excel cartridge is excellent, but that is an anecdote. I have seen all sorts of defective styluses and mountings coming from very reputable companies. " First it's not an anecdote Excel quality whole levels as are not anectdotic vintage cartridges coming from still today top cartridge designers/manufacturers and I'm not ( as you ) talking only about the quality of the stylus tip but the overall very high quality level performance that many times are not only a challenge for the MSL you owned but that beats several today top LOMC/MM/MI cartrridges. The issue is that as my Excel you don't have on hand to confirm by your self my statements but you have the opotunity that for the kind of money you paid for that MSL or the Susurro you can buy at least 8 top vintage cartridges where you don't need to " see " back in the future cartridges. There is a gentleman here in this forum ( I can't remember his moniker and I hope he can shime about. ) that owns all vintage LOMC cartridges that came with diamond cantilever/stylus including the Sony XL 88D that as the today top limited edition Audio Technica was the only cartridge with diamond cantilever/stylus made by one piece. I never heard this Sony great cartridge performer and " only " heard the 88 D version with diamond cantilever and stylus as separates That owner is anecdotic but I can send/post vintage LOMC cartridges that every MUSIC lover needs to listen/experience it before die. Yes, jitter is mis-tracking that any cartridge can avoid it. Btw, next time you need help to fix a cartrudge you need to experience too Joseph Long who handled : Ogura, Nagaoka, Namiki, Gyger.
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@mijostyn " " When a stylus leaves the groove and bounces back and forth it permanently damages the groove. " All cartridges with out mistracking " leaves the grooves " at microscopic levels because the tracking is not posible that be continuous for any cartridge stylus: no matter what. So, 60um or 100 um exist that " leaves the grooves ". and again 60um is good enough with any LP ( but Terlarc 1812 or the like. ) to not have additional mistracking. That your mind stays more calm with a 90um cartridge means only that " mind calm ) and that’s all. I posted in other threads that I listened in my system the Etsuro Gold and it’s an excellent quality performer as it’s the Umami Red too. For the other gentlemans I agree that the Delos at its price is a real challenge but different to the Umami Red that I prefer over the Delos and I have a lot of respect for Lyra and followed/owned/own almost all its models just from the began with the Evolve.
@mijostyn " It seems no matter what I say you make hash out of it.. " Sorry for that. No it is not that way, you already know my respect to you and I have no single rouble with yo or your way of thinking. I'm ok with you. Sorry again.
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Dear @mijostyn : " I never said you can not replace just the stylus tip of some cartridges.. "
? ? ? ? ? from where came your statement, seems you have a misunderstood because that is not the subjects of my post to you. What’s going on ? ? ? ?
What I posted about Hana, Etsuro and my cartridge was only for you can understandthat Excel is EXCEL and made and makes several OM top today cartridges that audiophiles as you not even knew/know. My cartridge ruby top plate is part of that quality know/how level by Excel, the measured of my cartridge in the chart says that output levels in both channels are exACTLY THE SAME: 0.211MV AND fr FLAT FROM 20HZ TO 20KHZ. In the other side all what you said about stylus tip " special " polished and the like is only a myth that I believed like 10 years ago for several years and my post confirm that is just false because the Ogura stylus tip in the Fulton cartridge that Joseph Long fix it for less than ( not 300.00, error. ) 200.00 is exactly the same as your over 7K-8K MSL stylus tip. That's why I posted. R
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Dear @mijostyn : With all respect but you are " wrong " on that stylus issue and you have to " learn " a little about and other thing that you need to " learn " is who in hell is Excel the manufacturer of Hana, Etsuro and some other top today and past cartridges. I even own an Excel top of the line under its nomination: Excel and I have many first haND EXPERIENCES WITH CARTRIDGES MADE BY eXCEL. the model I still own in mint condition is realluy a jewel starting with the cartridge top plate that's builded of pure ruby around 0.5cm. Regarding cartridge tracking abilities I think that you remember the " hot " discussion in the Dava cartridge thread where @mlavigne Etsuro Gold cartridge he owns ( I think he owns 2 units. ) whe your severe critic to that Excel cartridge was that the tracking is 70u and you said that you never buy that cartridge or any other with inferior tracking to 80u but you need to know that 60u is more than enough to track really fine almost any high velocity LP tracks but the Telarc 1812. Btw, the lavigne Etsuro Gold sample is not the stock one but he posted somewhere a " special " one but he never said in this forum why is " special. @tomic601 is rigth: " There is a LOT more to it than stylus shape. ". Mijos your memory is a little " short " about the stylus differences because like 3-4 months ago I posted/shared in other thread 6 of my vintage cartridges that were with Joseph Long retipper. All of those cartridges he only changed the stylus ( cantilever NO. ) and in all cases the stylus came/comes by Ogura. Well, when you seen one of those cartridges stylus under microscopic photo that Joseph sended inmediatly you shared the stylus of your ( in tghose times ) be loved MSL top today cartridge where you posted that in both cartridges the stylus with both samples under microscope looks way similar and I paid way lower than 300.00 against your over 7K MSL stylus: go figure what you are posting in this thread about the stylus importance. Yes, my vote for the OP still goes to the Umami Red in that " great " RP10. @bpolleti I thimnk that you need to read the Stereophile review of it where the reviewer compared it very favorable against the SAT direct drive one that set you back over 100K ! ! R. |
Dear @dayglow : With all respect 2 things: first the KR is inferior in quality level performance that the Umami Red and second there are at least 2 Umami Red revirews using the Lyra Atlas at 11.6 grs.. The OP has not to worry about.
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Dear @marshinski15 : I never listen in any system your Rega cartridge but I listened in at least 4 systems ( inlcuding mine ) the Umami Red and is a excellent performers and no the Ortofon Windfeld is not better but different. My advise is that you should try and decide about because your system is different for the other audiophiles. Btw, RP-10 and its tonearm are really first rate components.
Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTION, R. |
