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@wisinskt , Perhaps, I’m mistaken but I seem to recall that respected forum contributor @duramax747 with his somewhat unique professional skills was working on a similar project. Keep in mind that depending on one’s room and in particular that rooms flooring, and depending how these devices are coupled or as the case may be decoupled, can make things sound just as easily worse or better. YMMV! |
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oH4runQr6I8 I have mixed feelings... Feel free to skip to 11:25 or so. |
@unsound , thanks for the info re: @duramax747! Good to be amongst tinkerers (as I'm new to this thread). I started by trying to find the outriggers on various forums, websites, hifishark, etc... and then went down the rabbit trail of getting these milled. I have a set for my 1.6's out at my ranch but not the 2.4's. Instead of spikes I'm using the IsoA Gaia's and they worked so well with the 1.6 setup that I went down the 2.4 path as the rooms in both places are pretty similar (partialy sits on wood and rug). I have been reading through the posts and think after a week I'm on page 30 or so. Great discussions going on here and appreciate everything. I also appreciate the fact that everyone seems pretty collegial unlike a lot of other threads out there. Glad I found this place! |
devinplombier - no worries. I have consulted a variety of designers for feedback and input for our upgrade design approach and particulars. In this case we're re-balancing the SCS4 (as an option) for stand-mounting rather than bookshelf environment. Danny also provided feedback re components and circuits from his perspective. By the way, I highly recommend Danny's Electra Tube Connectors as input terminals. They fit our paradigm of propagation field integrity in a simple, well executed, affordable package. The best I've found at any price. |
Regarding Outriggers - Floor coupling is an important dimension for all speakers. Thiel’s outriggers broaden the base of support / footprint, with built-in adjustability for plumb and tilt. Their aesthetic matches later Thiel models nicely. Nice upgrade. I have examined most of the market solutions in this arena, including the Gaias, and found room for improvement. A major problem, as unsound says, is that all flooring systems are not created equal . . . so one solution doesn’t fit all situations. Thiel Renaissance has designed a family of interface products, which we call ’suspension systems’, in the form of sets of feet and a monitor stand that houses an outboard crossover. They create a mechanical path rigid enough to keep the speaker anchored in space, while supplying an adjustable energy path to tune-out return-energy from the floor. The system is user-adjustable to match everything from bare concrete to carpet on wood, etc. There are 4 separate legs, in 3 sizes for small, medium and large speakers. Each leg anchors to a corner of the speaker base with its inboard end anchored to the speaker bottom to quiet its vibratory behavior. The outboard end accepts a threaded capsule (foot) with an interior bore for a reversible pin (toe) with a pointed or flat end. That toe rides on various washers and greases to tune the suspension to its unique work. With so many balls in the air, it is unknown when we might bring this or other products to market. I feel no conflict with wisinskt’s proposal. Thiel outriggers are part of classic Thiel’s solutions that do their job well. Stay tuned for news of Thiel Renaissance’s Speaker Suspensions. |
