Thiel CS 2 2 vs. Vandersteen 2CE


I like them both, but I'm curious to hear reactions to both. I'm currently powering Snell EII (which I really love; I've had Snell Es for almost 20 years now) with Forte F 55 and F 44 amp/preamp. 80% of my music is rock.

Thanks!
mockturtle

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IMHO, the Thiels are more sensitive to upstream components (especially amps), but the Vandy's are more sensitive to room placement and listening position. Your Forte' gear won't sound horrible with Thiels, or Vandys.
With all due respect to Audioconnection , I beg to disagree. I'm sure that many might indeed prefer the Vandy's to the Thiels, I doubt it's because of room interaction. While the Vandy's go deeper, the Thiels are tighter in the bass. That looser, warmer bass can be problematic. I suspect that the Vandy's minimal baffle area might have it's benefits, but it might also create more variables with regard to early room reflections than the Thiels more controlled approach. I like both these designs very much and struggled deciding between the them when choosing for myself. I have been comparing these series from their respective manufacturers for over 20 years in many, many different rooms. In my experience the Vandys have demonstrated less consistantcy than the Thiels. Without proper placement the Vandy's and perhaps especially the 2's can sound really, really bad. I have not noticed the same variability with the Thiels. Though I ultimately chose Thiels, I have to admit, all things considered, I think the Vandy's are the better value. FWIW, I have no professional interest in either of these products.
Audioconnection, your entitled to you'r opinion, I agree that the Vandy 2's have improved in this regard, but, I still think the Thiel 2's still have the advantage with regard to ease of room placement. OTOH, the Vandy 4 and 5's are easier than the comparable Thiels in this regard.