Thiel 2.3


I picked up these speakers locally a few weeks back as I’ve been curious about Thiel speakers for many years and have never had the opportunity to hear them, or own them.  I tried them in my listening room a few times but they were so bright and strident sounding that I kept removing them.  
 
Upon hearing them, I totally understood some of the many complaints I’ve read about them.  This was even with decent and a warmer sounding SS gear pushing 200 watts into 8 ohms.  I wanted to like them, but I just couldn’t.  I then decided to try a tubed preamp and amp, pushing 185 watts in tetrode mode.

I’m not sure I’ve ever encountered a speaker where the upstream gear made that drastic of a difference.  What was ear-bleedingly strident and unlistenable turned into a “Holy crap!  These sound friggin’ amazing!”  
 

Boy, am I ever glad I tried the tubed gear.  These old speakers are now making beautiful music in my room!  Proof again, to me, that system synergy plays such a huge role in our hobby.

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Showing 1 response by audioman58

The key. Hear is in the Xover parts ,I have worked building them and these 2.3, and 3.6 the Xover parts , need much better quality , and a warmer sounding capacitor 

plain and simple ,the cheap 50 cent cement resistors don’t help at all , and crappy no name, and Solen capacitiors are ranking fought a 6-7 at best out of 15 ,use a mills resistor a Big step up for a lousy $5 each yes it may cost you $1k to rebuild the Xover boards but I can tell you 100% a  night and day improvement in sonics on every level .for the vast majority f speaker mfg even at $10 k+ go cheap on Xover parts , it’s the 🧠 or heart ♥️ of your Loudspeaker . The audio signal goes through here good or bad , stock most speakers have 💩 Xover parts .

i not only owned a Audio store but worked with top techs in modding Loudspeakers,as well as electronics .  A good rule of thumb roughly only 25% of your electronics, or speakers cost goes into the speakers , the rest goes into overhead packaging , and dealer markup , just think a $$4k pair of speakers only $1k goes into the whole speaker including cabinet and packaging. Sad but true .

i look for very good quality used then rebuild ,I just bought a Dynaudio Contour 3.4 speaker ,excellent build quality and very high quality drivers , then just removed the wiring ,and upgraded the Xover boards , now with my SVS 4000 SB subwoofer you have at least a speaker system over $12 k for a total investment around $5k .

very easy to do ,the key is the drivers and cabinet , the Thiel has a lot of potential .