The imperfect amp: Pass or Ayre?


There are two high end SS amp brands which, from a technical perspective, don’t do very well, which I am thinking of:

Ayre and Pass.

Pass has stated that even ordered distortion is euphonic. Ayre’s zero feedback, diamond circuit has a great deal of distortion compared to the very best measuring amps.

I have to admit, that like an IPA vs. a Belgian White, I have a very strong preference, but my preference is not canon. It is just how my wallet moves me. You should in no way feel like my tastes matter. Buy what makes you giddy with joy.

Would you, kind lady or gentleman, tell us if you have heard both, what did you think?? Is this to narrow? Would you throw another brand into the ring??
erik_squires

Showing 4 responses by wolf_garcia

I'm certain that many people use Ayre or Pass amps with Wilsons and suffer greatly and often from what is clearly the act of being fooled into having fun. What sheep...don't they know that these amps aren't "all that?" I can only assume these listeners sit there for hours in front of their Wilsons thinking "man, I wish these Pass amps were BETTER somehow," and the expense involved in what is obviously an experience of near mediocrity is simply criminal. I'm with Square Eric on this one...Nelson Pass in particular should be ashamed of his contribution to this art form with thousands of music lovers trapped in his web of delusional sonic bliss. "Oh the humanity!"
My power amp, one of Dennis Had's SEP High Output tubsters (10 to 17 WPC allegedly), is one that I hope nobody ever measures for anything as that could harsh my mellow.
I get Eric's point as it is amazing that people nearly unanimously think those ridiculous Pass and Ayre amps sound great. Why? From listening to them? BALDERDASH I say...it's all about esoteric measurements that, even if most music fans don't understand those things, matter so much!...You could waste hours or years enjoying something that's actually inferior in some way and has some form of distortion that fools you into thinking you're enjoying it, and do you get those years back? No you don't!..sure, Nelson Pass says a little even ordered distortion seems to make people like the sound of an amp, and even built little gizmos that generate that and gave them away to some DIY people! A CHEAP TRICK...I like tubes because they look cool and make me think I'm slightly hipper somehow, but although I enjoy the sound of 'em, I'm no dummy! Straight wire with gain is what I need man...I'm likely not worthy though, and I'll sadly continue to suffer along somehow...*sniff*...by the way...I have an eight thousand dollar acoustic guitar and if I pick it too hard it distorts! What a piece of junk...