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The imperfect amp: Pass or Ayre?

There are two high end SS amp brands which, from a technical perspective, don’t do very well, which I am thinking of:

Ayre and Pass.

Pass has stated that even ordered distortion is euphonic. Ayre’s zero feedback, diamond circuit has a great deal of distortion compared to the very best measuring amps.

I have to admit, that like an IPA vs. a Belgian White, I have a very strong preference, but my preference is not canon. It is just how my wallet moves me. You should in no way feel like my tastes matter. Buy what makes you giddy with joy.

Would you, kind lady or gentleman, tell us if you have heard both, what did you think?? Is this to narrow? Would you throw another brand into the ring??
erik_squires

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gdnrbob
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@tomic601 , 
How I envy you...

I hate to sidetrack, and, I probably should just PM you, but I'm here...
You mentioned you had both a non-Twenty and Twenty version of an Ayre amp. Could you describe the differences between the two versions?
I keep wondering if I should upgrade.
Bob
gdnrbob
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@ctsooner 
@tomic601 ,

Thanks for the detailed answer.
I own the MX-R and KX-R. Both sound pretty amazing in their non-updated state. I had a chance to update the KX-R, but wanted to hear it first before I did anything. In fact, it bested my Atma MP-3. (So, Ralph is going to build me an MP-1😁, so I can do a closer comparison).
As it sounds so good now, I really needed your comments regarding the Twenty upgrade in order to get an idea of what kind of improvements there would be. (Looks like I will be waiting for the next Upgrade Special at Ayre).
Unfortunately, my Treo's are not up-gradable to CT status.-And, I really don't wish to buy another speaker.

@erik_squires 
Sorry for the digression.
Bob

gdnrbob
4,495 posts
 
@golfnutz,
I don't think Eric is trying to solicit negative comments.
Quite the opposite.
He just want to find out why people find Pass amps are so desirable.

@audiofound, 
Read Ralph Karsten's posts regarding harmonics. They tell the reason.
B
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