The difference between tubes and solid state that I am finding


I'm still a newbie when it comes to tubes. I have had the McIntosh C12000 preamp (with Moon 861, Eversolo A8, and Focal Sopra n1s) for awhile now. It is very enjoyable. I noticed when switch between Tube amp and Solid state mode the difference is very subtle. But when I do focus on it, I notice:

Tube sound: More open with a slight blossom sound. Maybe slightly more holographic. A pretty sound. 

Solid State sound: More exact. Instruments seem more there and defined. More in my face. Bass hits harder to. But not as open and airy. 

As far as brightness, I wouldn't say ether one is more softer than the other... the brightness seems same on both. 

Am I correct in this is how the differences between the tube/states differ?


I really enjoy both modes.... but I think the solid state one gets me a little more excited. 

 

dman777

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@jsalerno277 

My change to tubes as I gotten older has nothing to do with my hearing. While my hearing may have deteriorated, my ability to analyze and perceive nuance of sound has continually improved. Quite honestly my tolerance for bad treble and high frequency hash has gotten much smaller... not gone away. This in part may have to do with the pressure it puts on your ear drums regardless of whether you can differentiate the detail or not. 

My switchover to tubes / their sound  has to do with my deeper understanding of sound quality and what characteristics allow for a more direct subconscious emotional connection. When young I was tantalized by my analytical side, hearing something I had never heard before... as I often say... hearing the second violinist move his foot, or some squeak in the drum kit. In these systems, the details are amplified to stand out more then they do in the real world, highlighting and obscuring the midrange. 

My analytical side kept dragging my away from the satisfying gestalt of well reproduced music. It was years listening to  real acoustic music that finally revealed the characteristics that make music emotionally connecting. I think this kind of maturity often comes with experience and age. Although, very occasionally, I meet someone that went for that from the very beginning and never got side tracked... but that is unusual.

Yes, You identified the dominant differences. How prevalent the differences are also dependent on the designer and the rest of your system. 

Your comment on blossom is call midrange bloom... it is the natural fullness of the midrange... where most of the music happens. 

If you compared an all tube system that had its focus on reproducing nature sound like Audio Research, Conrad Johnson VAC. You would hear these qualities in spades. The bass would be nuanced, all the details would be there, but not highlighted... exaggerated and the midrange bloom would be rich. Tubed systems can be extraordinarily musical. 

An all solid state system would tend to turn your head by its details and probably the dominant (but some what undifferentiated thump) slam. Treble is very easy to create with solid state but difficult to do really high quality. Solid state are prone to sounding hard, analytical and can loose the music. 

The designer can attempt to make a solid state amp sound more musical and less like solid state. For example, Audio Research has released the S series amp (S100 and s200)... which are solid state but do not sound solid state at all. 

I owned primarily solid state for forty years... and one by one switched to all tube component for all my systems. They now sound detailed an incredibly natural and musical. You can see my system under my UserID under systems. I'd encourage you to create a virtual system as well. It's easy and really helpful to the folks on the forum.