Erik, it could be but I’m sure someone familiar with the recording process is definitely more qualified to address that (valid) question. The more I think about it the more the concept of “contrast” especially measured as a ratio, makes sense to me and I feel it also applies to other audio components. It’s a metric that I don’t think is captured in the typical audio-centric measurements such as frequency response, etc. It’s sort of like putting more “emphasis” on certain areas of musical “texture” which may or may not be directly related to the amplitude at that frequency. Again, perhaps experts like Ralph, Roger, or Steve, etc., can comment as whether or not the concept even applies to audio. Interesting analogy nonetheless.
The Border Patrol DAC - Maybe linearity in a DAC is bad ... Spitballing
Hi Everyone,
I've been thinking about a few things related to DAC's and how they behave and how we hear. Also thinking about a couple of audiophile comparisons I've heard and how we interpret what we hear.
Let's talk about this simple measurement called linearity.
In a DAC what we mean is that as the magnitude changes the output changes the same amount. That is, if the signal says "3 dB softer" you want to get exactly 3 dB softer output on the jacks.
And with modern, top tier DACs this is usually really good until around -90 dB where noise becomes the limiting factor.
For a long time I felt that a DAC which allowed me to hear the decay of a note, so that it fades instead of stops suddenly was the mark of a truly excellent sounding DAC.
I'm wondering if what I'm actually hearing is compression? Lack of linearity.
The reason I bring this up is that I was reading a long article about the complexities of reviewing a DAC from Border Patrol. One of the main failings, from measurements, is that it is really not linear at all. Sounds don't get softer fast enough. And ... low and behold, Herb Reichert actually makes many comments about how much more he can hear with this DAC than with others.
I'm going to link to a critique of the "scandal" so you all can get a better look:
https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2019/01/06/border-patrol-dac-revisited-audio-fur/
Also, take a look at the linearity charts in the original review. Honestly, awful. Not up to what we expect in state of the art DACs today, but ....
https://www.stereophile.com/content/borderpatrol-digital-analogue-converter-se-measurements
What do you all think? Do we need a compression feature in DACs so we can hear more details? That would make more sense to me than a lot of the current fad in having multiple filter types.
Best,
E
I've been thinking about a few things related to DAC's and how they behave and how we hear. Also thinking about a couple of audiophile comparisons I've heard and how we interpret what we hear.
Let's talk about this simple measurement called linearity.
In a DAC what we mean is that as the magnitude changes the output changes the same amount. That is, if the signal says "3 dB softer" you want to get exactly 3 dB softer output on the jacks.
And with modern, top tier DACs this is usually really good until around -90 dB where noise becomes the limiting factor.
For a long time I felt that a DAC which allowed me to hear the decay of a note, so that it fades instead of stops suddenly was the mark of a truly excellent sounding DAC.
I'm wondering if what I'm actually hearing is compression? Lack of linearity.
The reason I bring this up is that I was reading a long article about the complexities of reviewing a DAC from Border Patrol. One of the main failings, from measurements, is that it is really not linear at all. Sounds don't get softer fast enough. And ... low and behold, Herb Reichert actually makes many comments about how much more he can hear with this DAC than with others.
I'm going to link to a critique of the "scandal" so you all can get a better look:
https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2019/01/06/border-patrol-dac-revisited-audio-fur/
Also, take a look at the linearity charts in the original review. Honestly, awful. Not up to what we expect in state of the art DACs today, but ....
https://www.stereophile.com/content/borderpatrol-digital-analogue-converter-se-measurements
What do you all think? Do we need a compression feature in DACs so we can hear more details? That would make more sense to me than a lot of the current fad in having multiple filter types.
Best,
E
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