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The best Standmount Loudspeaker $6k or under

I have just recently purchased the New Carbon 7-SE Loudspeaker.
It has several upgrades starting with a Very good quality Simple 1st order Xover using only 4 parts Total ,using 2 air core inductors,One Mundorf
Resistor,and one Clarity ESA capacitor. Sonic purity is there the 2 new drivers have an equal share in this .This Scan speak 6620 Illiminator
Tweeter is Very good with excellent detail and air,and very good even off axis. The New Mid- Bass dtiver is a special Carbon pulp cone 4-5 grams lightlySonus Faber uses this in their$20k Loudspeaker. It still has some richness in it's character but,it is noticably faster with a very balanced
Character low level detail as well as inner detail is very impressive.
Mid to low Bass is very addictive deep and articulate going down to
Under40 hz in room that is very impressive for a medium sized Loudspeaker.one big thing also it is about a 88 db load at 4 ohms and the load is so easy my brother 10 watt 300 B can operate with ease and
Good level. I have compared many commercial brands which are
$5k range or a bit more which 50% Cisco dealer markup.
Gor $2,500 these are a Very special Loudspeaker that I will do a full accessment once I get $250-300 hours on them.there are reviews coming
Out probably around Xmas I was told, and a Fritz is a great guy to do business with .he was happy to answer all my questions and shipping
Was included which is allways welcome.do your homework and compare
What the others have yo offer and find out just what's in their Xover
Most are joke thst is why they refuse to tell you,Highly Recommended.
P.s I am near the Ct,Ma boarder. I f you would may be in the area email me
And check em out.
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I mentioned this speaker was a 4 ohm load ,It is actually a 6 ohm Loudspeaker on average ,if you have any technical questions regarding
These speakers and your room setup or electronics Fritz would be the man
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Zoot45 thank you, I spent a solid month or more in my travels listenng
And having others stop by with their gear. This is a no Brainer.
This new simple High quality Xover is Seamless and very easy to drive.
Whst many guys online get hooked into is sometimes Heavy Brand name
Advertising.compare Apples to Apples hat us far wiser.
Who else will give you One of Scanspeaks top Tweeters $220 each
And MidBass driver latest Carbon Light version that too is slightly modified and matched for this king of Monies ? - No one . P.s I used to do mods
And 75 % of Big name companies uses cheap Solen capacitors and
Sand cast resistors and think it is ok. No it is Not ok with me . You can hear the better Xover parts in low level detail ,as well as image depth,and
Tone. Even at. $5k see how many others can approach equal quality.
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The reason I Did not make a brief on the sound is because they are not Run in yet.that being said they are very detailed and invlolving Loudspeakers already.

Raal ribbon tweeters a number of very knowledgable builders say in the 4-5k range in the Raal tweeter is lacking in dynamics.very detailed and smooth but for rock
And roll no way. I owned one from Salk and they sounded good but
Too refined for my taste the Scanspeak Revelator has much meter vertical dispertion as well as dynamics. Proacs are pretty decent but for less money the new Fritz carbon 7 SE is a better engineered Loudspeaker.
And parts quality does matter ,that is why I mention them ,especially
Regarding Top range drivers.
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To Bc gator no. I didnot hear these all the same time.
I have been doind this for 35 years now ,I have done a ot of mds by self in the past to save money then to buy new .
Just to make any Audiophile better go to humblehomemadehifi-
Capacitor test when I was living overseas and worked in Aufio this is the bible for Xover parts which you don't see but is the heart of any loudspeaker. Drivers are equally important as well as reputation.many big name speakers use pathetic parts internally but the majority of Audiophiles only care about the look and sound ,but value is very important
I have owned $$ big dollar MBL system 15 years ago now I spend many hours researching all types of electronics as well as Loudspeakers
There is plenty of very good U,S made products out there for less then half the big name cost.any big name charges 4-5 X the cost of build that is a fact.guys like Fritz are experts in their field build from their shop,
Use the latest modeling build,and xover programs and Only top notch parts
For since they don't have the overhead they can afford to do it.this is where
A lot of guys loose out they pay way to much attention to advertisements
Read the reviews just as a guide and go listen to as many products as you can. If I can get a speaker sounding excellent with medium priced gear
Then it is well designed.
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The Revel pull off with their wave guide a very big balanced spread.
No sane priced Loudspeaker can be the best at everything and many things are system dependant. I found the 208 had great balance.
In under 10k there are not that many great floor stand speakers ,go up to $15k Now that is another level ,the 208 is not in that league.
I have SVS subwoofers that are excellent.if you want true full range .Great stands make a big difference in imaging ,and Bass articulation .the Core designstands I bought Are excellent !! The Carbon 7 SE uses far better drivers, then the 208 and A very simple 1st order Xover with far better internal parts which =
A much more focused and natural presentation .without any BS or build up
It is Excellent it will go down to just below double Bass level at 40 hz
If you want lights out Rock&Roll over a constant 95 DB level then put on a quality Subwoofer. For the majority of music in a room 16x12 these will be just fine ,good stands & blue tac . For the record these just don't just play
Music ,they do this with realism and refinement. If you are In
North east from NY,to New Hampshire I am in Ma. I invite any Audiophile
Who wants to make the effort. You will not be dissapointed !!
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The Jupiter is a nice cap but the values for the Copper are only 1uf as far
As I have seen,please let us know.
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The Raal tweeter several well known builders are getting away from them.
Reason being the 4-5 k range has issues as well as it's Verticle dispertion.
A top dome such as the Scan speak circ arc is noticably more dynamic
I owned a Salk speaker with Amorphous Raal ribbon their best ,very smooth and detailed for dynamics to soft for my taste.not the best for R&R.

Resistors Duelund is now 2 nd Path audio is a 1% and most resolution
Duelund 5-10% no better tolerance . Duelund capacitors Great, But
For a large value cap could be over $1k per speak that is for a simple 1 st order ,a complex 4 th order $1,000s. Fritz uses Clarity ESA which are pretty good,he is also working withthe Clarity MR,as well as Combo with Possibly Mundorf Supreme. These are a premium upgrade $$ if you need the
Ultimate in resolution.
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Hello of fourteen I have heard thd Harbeths 30.1
That us not sure under $6k speaker.
To date thd New B&W 805- D3 are exceptional and a great standpoint 
Usjng Mundorfs best capsciyors, Diamond tweeter,new Xover as well as Mid-Bass driver and upgraded cabinet. I donot own them but am really impressed with them. 
I currently own the Latest Spatial audio M-3 Hologram open baffle loudspeaker with  upgraded Xover 
I encorporated  their top M25 compression driver. It is outstanding
And will will shame many  $10 k+ Loudspeakers for the record. 
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