Well, Looking on the bright side at a minimum it would be BIGGER than 99.9% of the population. 🤡 Von Schweikert uses that 35K internal wiring UPGRADE from NASA. Gosh, I wonder if that’s the same stuff they used on Challenger. 🤡 note to self: Today is looking up already and I haven’t even had breakfast yet! 🤗 By the way, the Million Dollar Wisdom Audio system at the show in Vegas circa 2002 featuring 18 count em! Jeff Rowland amplifiers was a giant flop. But it was BIGGER than 99.9% of the population. 🤗 Now that I think about it so was the BIG Infinity Reference/Audio Research tube system a flop at the Show in DC circa 1980.
The 5 stages of making a bad audio purchase
This is tongue in cheek people, so let’s keep the replies light shall we?
The 5 Stages of Making a Bad Audio Purchase:
1. Denial: "My system, which before was of course totally awesome, is now totally awesomer! The sound stage isn’t just 3 dimensional any more, it is 4 dimensional. I can feel fingers sliding across guitar strings, drums are like my head is against the snare, and the bass goes 10hz lower ...."
2. Anger: "WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON’T BELIEVE MY SYSTEM WENT FROM AWESOME TO AWESOMER!!!. You obviously have a crap system, your ears are crap, you are just jealous."
3. Bargaining: "Hey, this gadget will make your already awesome system totally awesomer! 60% of MFR list is a great deal for it! That’s 40% off and you don’t even have to pay tax. I am only selling it because I am upgrading to the even awesomer version 2. My loss is your gain."
4. Depression: "I can’t believe I spent $5,000 on this thing ....."
5. Acceptance: "Sure, 75% off list is fair."
The 5 Stages of Making a Bad Audio Purchase:
1. Denial: "My system, which before was of course totally awesome, is now totally awesomer! The sound stage isn’t just 3 dimensional any more, it is 4 dimensional. I can feel fingers sliding across guitar strings, drums are like my head is against the snare, and the bass goes 10hz lower ...."
2. Anger: "WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON’T BELIEVE MY SYSTEM WENT FROM AWESOME TO AWESOMER!!!. You obviously have a crap system, your ears are crap, you are just jealous."
3. Bargaining: "Hey, this gadget will make your already awesome system totally awesomer! 60% of MFR list is a great deal for it! That’s 40% off and you don’t even have to pay tax. I am only selling it because I am upgrading to the even awesomer version 2. My loss is your gain."
4. Depression: "I can’t believe I spent $5,000 on this thing ....."
5. Acceptance: "Sure, 75% off list is fair."
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mwoh419 ”>>>>I don’t think I’ve seen so many logical fallacies crammed into one post since the last time I read one of your windy screeds. The anger and frustration jumps right out at you. " Really??? " When I am on my death bed, though, there is one thing I am absolutely certain of. When I look back on life, having an audio system better than 99.9% of the population will not even make it into the top 10 of things I was grateful for. " Sounds to me like someone who has their head on straight. ;) >>>>Apparently you never heard of a strawman argument. 😬 Nobody ever said he wanted a system better than 99.9% of the population or valued audio over everything else. Duh! |
For any audio gadget or thingamabob the assessments are split right down the middle 50-50. OK, you want examples? Fair enough! The Tice Clock, Nordost Cables, AntiCables, Mpingo disc, LS3/5a speakers, Wilson speakers, AudioQuest Cables, cables with Arrows 🔚 on them, audiophile fuses, things without an accompanying explanation, things WITH an explanation, vibration isolation, any product with the word quantum in the name, The Intelligent Chip, power line conditioners, MAG LEV, contact enhancers, CD treatments, the Green Pen, streaming, Schumann Frequency Generator, crystals, CD degaussers, cones, springs. OMG! What is an audiophile to do? 😩 |
atdavid, My point is how do you know when you’re hearing very good sound? It’s all VERY relative. AND SUBJECTIVE. There is no “absolute sound” so all you can really say is it sounded very good to you. What you think is “very good sound” might well be average sound to me or someone else. There are no STANDARDS for OVERALL SOUND QUALITY. There are only STANDARDS for technical parameters, SNR, channel separation, THD, etc. There is no DEFINITION OF ABSOLUTE SOUND. |
atdavid I haven't heard any "best" system, but I have heard a lot of very good systems. They all had qualities I liked, but where one excelled in one area, others excelled in other areas. >>>>>I don't think I've seen so many logical fallacies crammed into one post since the last time I read one of your windy screeds. The anger and frustration jumps right out at you. :-) |
It’s actually a journey without a destination. One issue I see a lot is that many audiophiles don’t know where the sound of their system lies in the overall curve of sound quality. Maybe they think they’re 5% from Audio Perfection so they give up. Your mental image of HiFi perfection is only as good as the best system you’ve heard. |
There’s no need to raise your voice. It’s all about knowledge, Fleschler. Knowledge is what’s left after you subtract out all the things you forgot from school. “My system sounds fabulous!” That’s gold, Jerry, gold!” 🤗 Besides, I haven’t been wrong since 1985. You have just gotten used to all the distortion, that’s all. You might consider expanding your circle of friends a little bit. |
I’m sorry to inform you guys but it’s actually a viscous cycle, it’s also a negative reinforcement, that causing all the problems. The equipment itself degrades the sound and the more CDs and LPs you accumulate the worse the sounds gets, all things being equal. If you don’t believe me and it would not surprise me if you don’t, try taking all your CDs and LPs and books entirely out of the house some time. Then listen to your system again without all the media in the house. Same goes for all unused audio stuff you may have lying around, amps, cables, power cords, it’s all very bad for the sound. I especially feel sorry for Fleshler who has a bazillion CDs and records. OMG 😲 No angry emails, please, I’m not making this up. I’m only trying to help. |
I spent 10 bucks on my SONY WALKMAN CD Player, 10 bucks on my SONY MDR v700 Headphones 🎧 which are fabulous by the way, so as you can imagine I have ZERO buyer’s remorse for my system. I do have a little tiny bit of buyer’s remorse for all the tweaks in my room, however. I estimate there must be at least a few grand tied up in tweaks. Oh, well, that’s the way it goes sometime. |