That "tube sound" and power ratings


This might be a newbie question since I've only begun researching tube technology. I understand to some degree the theory that tube sound is partly related to second harmonic distortion vs. the more prevalent odd order harmonic characteristics of SS. If "tubies" prefer that sound (I might be one of them), does it make sense to carefully match an amplifier's power rating such that it is NOT TOO HIGH for the speakers it's driving? If the rating is too high won't that mean lower distortion and hence less tube sound for a given volume for those speakers than a lower power tube amp (in general that is - I realize not all Watts are the same). So won't a high wattage tube amp have less of the special tube sound "tubies" like at their preferred listening volume?

I realize I'm likely missing something here. Set me straight!
hazyj

Showing 6 responses by charles1dad

Atmosphere,
A few other "easy load" speaker brands to add to your list.
Rethm, Vaughn Audio, Tonian Labs, Ocellia, Trenner Friedl, Audio Note.
Ralph, there's something that doesn't make sense concerning your comments about speaker designers. These designers have to have at the very least a rudimentary understanding of science and engineering. Something as basic as Kirchoff's law has to be easily comprehended and applied. They have the equipment available to confirm that concept and its effect. I just don't understand why you would be met with such resistance to something so plain and fundamental. How do these designers counter your point/position?
Charles,
Hazyi,
I can't speak for all owners of lower power tube amplifiers other than to say
I doubt they're intentionally seeking a "distorted" sound
experience. Al and Atmasphere's post are worth re reading. My speakers
are 94db at 14 ohms (minium 10 ohm load). My amplifier is an 8 watt SET
my average listening level is roughly 75-80db C weighted I sit 10 feet from
the speakers. Under these conditions I'm using only "fractions"
of 1 watt to achieve this very adequate listening volume. Most of my jazz
CDs have a dynamic range of 25-30db (some have an even wider range).
So there's ample head room in reserve when necessary to account for
musical peaks. The distortion levels are miniscule as I'm using mere
fractions of a single watt. The sound is pure and beautiful and there's no
need for "induced" distortion, In reality, quite the contrary. I
agree with Atmasphere's point regarding the advantages of high speaker
ohm impedance based on my daily listening experiences. Hazyi, I hope this
perspective helps make the point that gratuitous distortion isn't the appeal
for tube amplifiers.
Charles
Hello Al,
Yes I understand the premise that most speakers are designed with the intention of using transistor amplifiers. It seems what Ralph was explaining is their(designers) reluctance (or even rejection) to "recognized" his point as it pertains to tube amplifier -speaker interactions.
Charles,
I get the impression that 4 ohm impedance speakers became the default
load once transistor amplifiers became plentiful and affordable. It could
also be that they are possibly easier to design and build. These designers
realized that if there's a difficult load to drive, just purchase a higher power/
current SS amplifier and the problem is solved. Perhaps higher impedance
speakers are more challenging to implement and designers simply followed
the path of least resistance. Sound quality may not have been the only
consideration for this direction.
Charles,
Ralph,
That sums up my preference for tubes. The only criteria that matters, the more natural sound quality.
,
Live music is all about inducing emotions,
involvement and simply being fully engaged. That's the joy of music's
ability to communicate. Tubes don't totally equal that live experience but
they bring me much closer than any SS amplifiers I've heard so far (25
years of High End awareness).How can something be considered
"accurate" and fail to be involving? The more effectively a
component can mimic live sound the more involving it will sound. This is
what I call "natural" sound or realism. In my personal discovery,
SET amplifiers have pushed me the furthest in this beautiful direction and
there's no going back. Everyone must find what works best for their needs
and ultimate satisfaction.
Charles,