Testing Ethernet switch


If you have bought an "audio" Ethernet switch, don't bother with this thread 

If you question Ethernet switches, here is one test of one brand. 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMFQ3YvR3Eo&t=914s

 

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Showing 18 responses by fredrik222

@jeffrey125 good riddance, 20k DAC with 5k speakers and 2k amplifier and “I’m done” as a comment really shows that you have nothing to contribute.

@jeffrey125  your speakers are not good. So if you think you have a resolving system, you are truly a lost cause.

at least tonywinga has a good system, I have heard those speakers, and while i don’t want them, they are good. Better than mine. Yours are light years behind mine. But keep on trucking thinking your speakers are resolving. Big L In life is going nowhere. 

@mgrif104  Hans just regurgitates the debunked white paper by John Swenson. 
unless you buy counterfeit crap from second hand Chinese markers, noise is not a factor in Ethernet, especially not in residential applications. 

For starters, Ethernet is balanced, so common mode noise rejection is by default, which remove the noise below 1000MHz. That is just one of the noise rejection methods and does not include error correction.

another point, modern Ethernet is a point to point connection, it is terminated between each connection and the signal is read and recreated for every hop along the chain. So no noise can travel beyond any connection point.

@tonywinga  again, you are not relevant. You may spend money foolishly, but that doesn’t make you relevant. 
and again, a clown is a clown, and by your own definition, you are definitely a clown. You have never posted anything supporting your point, mainly because there is nothing available. 

@jeffrey125 if you look at your system, you can summarize it as “meh”. That is at least what the reviewers of the components you own has said. “Meh”.

on the flip side, my system, every single component has an average review of “details! Transparency! Clarity! Well above it weight class!”.

 

yeah, meh vs excellence. There is a difference there, you don’t get, I get that, probably because you have never heard a good system. But enjoy your “meh” system.

@badgerdms Every network engineer suddenly also becomes an expert in psychoacoustics

 

you are 100% right, even though you probably don’t understand it. Psychoacoustics is the perfect description, you hear a difference because you want to, it is all in your head.

I find it hilarious when people who have 0 knowledge about a topic attack people with knowledge. You can’t argue any thing about how it actually works, just what you “hear”. 
 

but facts remain, about 50% of people who don’t know anything about Ethernet, TCP/IP and streaming can “hear” a difference, while 50% cannot as evidenced by this thread and many others, and 100% of people with knowledge of the topic hear no difference.

This is what a randomized control trial would call placebo effect.

@cleeds  per usual, selective quoting and citing of reference materials to highlight something that isn’t there. But at least you admit I am correct. 

@tonywinga owned me? lol, by your own definition you are a clown. 🤡

Post a supporting article that shows that the author has any resemblance of expertise. You cannot. 

@jeffrey125 yeah, actually gaining knowledge is tedious, the majority here never bothered with learning anything about anything. That is very apparent.

@jeffrey125  you are talking about your system, right? Mine is certainly far more resolving that yours, and while it doesn’t matter always, but seems at least 10x more expensive than yours. 

@jeffrey125 lol, you do not own anything, anybody who even says a thing like that is just a big L in life. 
 

your speakers are 5k new, and while I have never heard them, they seem ok-ish in the lo-fi range, certainly not punching up to mid-fi. 

@jeffrey125  low end speakers are low end speakers, but I am always interested in hearing new systems. But going back to your comments on resolving, yours is not a resolving systems, sure expensive DAC, but your speakers are holding your system back. And going after others saying they don’t have a system that resolves enough when your own systems can’t resolve at all, is hilariously hypocritical.
 

And it doesn’t change anything, “audiophile” Ethernet products are snake oil and nothing more, as evidenced by OPs link in the first post. 

@tonywinga  again, you have no relevant experience at all. So, a clown is a clown, by your own definition, you have nothing to back up your claims and you cannot argue anything that I post. Simply put, you are not relevant in a discussion regarding computer networks. 

@tonywinga you have no relevant experience or knowledge, yet you have the arrogance to argue facts about a topic you have demonstrated over and over again is far far beyond your comprehension, and then call me a clown. It is absolutely hilarious.

i have a civil engineering degree in computer communications, I have numerous certifications from Cisco, Juniper and many others, at the Expert level, and I have worked with computer networks all over the world for almost 25 years.