Testing Ethernet switch


If you have bought an "audio" Ethernet switch, don't bother with this thread 

If you question Ethernet switches, here is one test of one brand. 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMFQ3YvR3Eo&t=914s

 

tvrgeek

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Not everyone knows how IP works so it is not hard for the fraudsters to take advantage of them. A big disservice to the community in search of better sound. I try to suggest facts.

An allegation of fraud is serious business. Of course, it's easy to make such claims here, as you so ably demonstrate. You do it again and again, repeating it over and over, and it establishes you as a "spokesman" for "victims" you've identified. It's just a ruse. 

But if you were serious, if you really wanted to do a service for your fellow humans, you'd attack this "fraud" where you could make a difference: through the courts. A template has been established for this by Stephen Tuttle, et al. and you can get rich if you and your attorneys simply follow the process.

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Remember: You're attacking fraud because you know how IP works. You have nothing to lose, unless, of course ...

 

tvrgeek

I have also repeatedly challenged the "believers" to provide any evidence of how a working to spec layer one can effect the audio ... Nope, Only get attacks.

I haven’t seen any attacks on you here but if you believe you’ve been attacked, you should alert the moderators to the violators. Consider that exposing your agenda is not the equivalent of an "attack." You’re just being too sensitive.

... Claiming a switch makes a difference is the extraordinary claim so extraordinary evidence needs to come from that side ...

No one here owes you anything at all, notwithstanding your incessant demands for "evidence."

You allege fraud. Prove it in court (where you could achieve Class Action status and really rake it in!) or press your case with consumer protection agencies. But promoting your zany notions here using repetiton as "proof" isn’t working.

tonywinga

Keep in mind this is tvrgeek’s opinion.  He is not a degree’d engineer or scientist nor has he published papers in technical journals on this subject matter.  Therefore, he is not a subject matter expert.  Correct me if I’m wrong.

It wouldn't matter what degrees or certifications tvrgeek might have - nonsense is nonsense regardless of the source. Almost all of his posts share the same theme, such one @coralkong pointed out that I'd overlooked:

The point I am making is no one should trust their brain to be objectively accurate.

When someone tells you to discard empirical evidence, ignore your own thoughts, and instead heed them, that's a cult.

... but facts remain ... 100% of people with knowledge of the topic hear no difference. This is what a randomized control trial would call placebo effect.

You may well be correct. If none of those subjects heard a difference, it's possible that their expectation that there would be no difference biased their observations.

fredrik222

... the majority here never bothered with learning anything about anything ...

And yet many of us have been leading happy and successful lives for years without the benefit of your instruction and guidance. How do you account for that discrepancy?

Perhaps you are just full of yourself.

Those of us who are engineers have pointed to real experts on how Ethernet works. We are fully open to new information that can be explained in this universe. 

So is everyone else here. You hold no exclusivity in that regard.

Those who believe in only their ears have offered no argument than to attack others.

It's silly to portray yourself as a victim because no one here has attacked you. If you insist you've been victimized, alert the moderators to the offensive posts and they'll resolve it for you.

That leaves placebo effect or an extraordinary claim.

And your false claims and ill logic. Good grief.

Extraordinary claims, that "other things carried along" need some evidence. 

No one here owes you anything at all. You're not entitled.