Tekton Impact Monitors
I'm relatively new to Audiogon but have trolled the discussions for a few months. I have been listening to Spendor LS3/5As driven by a Quad 34/306 combination since the late 1980's and decided that it was finally time to upgrade my speakers. I love the Spendors but they are very limited in dynamics and scale. I auditioned the SVS Ultra Bookshelf speakers and while they brought some additional scale they simply didn't have the sweet midrange that I can't live without. I listened to some open baffle speakers (Emerald Physics) and loved them, but their size and need for space worried me, and I found them less satisfying at moderate and low volumes, where I do a fair bit of listening. I was fascinated by all the discussion regarding Tekton speakers and was considering getting a pair of Enzo 2.7s, but after a short discussion with Eric I followed his recommendation of the Impact Monitor with upgrade. They have the 7 tweeter array and a pair of 6.5" woofers and are rear-ported. I use a pair of SVS subs (the sealed variety). The Impact Monitors are simply amazing. The midrange is oh-so-sweet (very similar to my Spendors, but with more air) and the detail, even at low and moderate listening levels, is superb. The imaging is even better than my Spendors managed and the scale is huge and is much more music-appropriate. My system is really quite modest but now when I walk into my listening room (doubles as our living room - thankfully my wife appreciates Hi-Fi) I get the audio-show feeling of "being there". I have a Denon DP59L turntable with a DL110 HO moving coil cartridge running through an Emotiva XPS-1 phono preamp and the Tektons are absolutely incredible with classic rock on vinyl. I'm not sure how Eric managed it, but these speakers are superb, even with my 30 year old Quad electronics. I believe they are basically the top 24" of the Double Impacts, but are rear-ported rather than front ported. I can heartily recommend them and Eric and his team are great to work with. I'm not sure how many other Impact Monitors are out there since the pair I have are S/N 0005 and 0006!
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"Speaker placement can indeed make a BIG difference-" Oh yeah. I spend hours listening to where a new pair of speakers sound best in my room. I've owned a lot of speakers over the years and I can tell you even if a speaker designer tells you a certain placement is ok that doesn't mean its best for your room or musical tastes. Also pay attention to your listening position. Moving your chair closer or farther from the speaker can make as big a difference as moving the speaker itself. The same is true for listening height. In the past, I've actually used an office chair so I could easily adjust the height of the chair. |
Thanks @david_ten . Just thought I'd add, when going through this process I use a track from Holly Cole that I'm VERY familiar, I make sure not to change the volume level and I certainly don't change any equipment. That way I can hear the results based on the speaker or chair positioning (not some other variable) - it's like having constants in an experiment. |
@kdude66 (Kenny) - I spent way too much time last night messing with the height of that tweeter array. And, like you indicate, center tweeter at ear height sounds best. That's basically where I started at but, of course, I wanted to be sure. (Ha!). I think I have the positioning dialed-in but I still have to make sure my sub is correctly tuned for these speakers. So still more "preliminary" work to do. @backsigns - The speaker stands I've had for awhile. I'm not sure of the brand. I can tell you they are solid wood and are very heavy. I had to do a little work on them when I got them such as refinishing and adjusting one of the top plates but really no additional bracing was required. They are height adjustable via removing the center-pin and repositioning the center column up or down. |
@david_ten - Thanks! The SR Tranquility Bases help with EMI/RF problems. Since they are active it's easy to hear the difference - simply unplug them and listen, then plug them back-in and listen. The biggest difference is under my music server - pretty much night and day . With my preamp and amps the effect is more subtle but they do help "refine" the sound a little more. Under my turntable, I frankly don't hear any difference with the Tranquility turned off or on but since they are solid bases in their own right I've decided to keep using it there. |
REVIEW – TEKTON DESIGN IMPACT MONITOR PRELIMINARIES I’ve been reading a lot about Tekton Design’s Double Impact speakers. When a professional reviewer, Terry London, chimed-in a few months ago with his super positive review I started paying even more attention to what people were saying. I stalked the boards and asked a few questions mostly about listening distances and room sizes. I finally emailed Eric. He responded right away and when I called, Karma put Eric on the phone for a short conversation to confirm a few details. I decided on the upgraded Impact Monitors and since he had a pair in-stock Eric promised to ship the same day. I received the tracking number shortly after the call and had the speakers about 4 days later. They arrived well packed and without a scratch. The fit-and-finish of the standard cabinet is excellent. No complaints with communication, shipping speed or quality from me. I spent considerable time figuring-out
where to place the Impact Monitors in my room and what listening distance to
use. My listening room is 25’ x 15’ x 10’. I ended-up with them 42” from the
front wall and about 5' from the closest sidewall. My listening position is 8’
from the front baffles with the center tweeters at 43"which is ear height.
They sit about 9' a part. I ran them continuously for 5 days. The
sound opened-up a little each day but I had a hell of a time getting the lower
midrange and bass to sound right. No matter where I placed the speakers, or my
REL subwoofer, the low-end sounded weird. It sounded thick/smeared and no way
in the same league as the upper midrange and treble. I tried different speaker
stands and spikes. I tried different cables. I added a Synergistic Research
carbon XOT, which helped, but the sound in the low-end was simply screwed-up. I
knew it wasn’t my sub because the problems occurred even with it
turned-off. Finally, I remembered “the cheapest but most effective
tweak”: tighten the mounting screws around the speaker cones! (Don’t over
tighten them just make sure they are snug) Well, low and behold a screw on one
of the 6.5” speaker cones was very loose and a couple of tweeter screws needed
a few turns to completely secure them. With all the screws firmly in place
the bottom octaves snapped in to focus - tight yet with plenty of texture and
bloom. I have a number of tube and solid-state amps that I tried with the Impact Monitors. I really enjoyed a 25 watt Class A amp with them but I ended-up preferring my 200 watt tube mono blocks. I readily admit the choice of amps is subjective so your mileage will obviously vary. Rest assured any quality amp will work well with the Impact Monitors. Even my flea-watt SET worked well. However, remember, in normal configuration, they are 4 ohms (8 ohms is optional) and are rated at 94db sensitivity. My taste in music is mostly jazz, blue
grass, country and rock. For instance, I listen to a lot of Gov’t Mule, Gregg
Allman, Neil Young, Holly Cole, Shelby Lynne, Johnny Cash, Nickel Creek, Earl
Scruggs, Led Zeppelin, Clark Terry, Oscar Peterson, Duke Ellington, Ella
Fitzgerald, etc. If I listen to classical music, it’s usually solo piano,
cello or violin. LISTENING Even during the set-up period I could tell these speakers are special. If I were to describe their sound in one word it would be: “natural”. The tone is spot-on and they present a very coherent dynamic sound – much like good horn speakers. They don’t sound laid-back, forward or any other term – they just sound right. There are no overdone highs or lows. When a vocalist sings an “s” it doesn’t sound like a “z”. Bass guitars don’t sound like one note blobs. Violins don’t sound like nails on a chalkboard. As he claims in his ads, Eric has “captured the harmonic spectra of the music being played”. They image as well as anything I’ve had in my listening room. Each performer is properly placed in the soundstage but they aren’t etched in stone – just like live music. Depth, width and height of the soundstage are excellent. The Impact Monitors “only” play down to 40Hz or so. Based on your listening preferences, or room requirements, that may be low enough. I would avoid pushing them into corners or towards the front wall to augment their bass. Instead, as mentioned above, a subwoofer when properly set-up is a very viable solution if you want more bass. I realize you could buy a pair of Double Impacts or move even higher up the Tekton food-chain but space constraints, cost or even aesthetics in your room my prevent that. Finally, I need to mention my extensive use of Synergistic Research (SR) equipment. The SR stuff has always had a significant impact on the sound in my system and that was especially true with the Tekton speakers. I listened for a while with the SR Atmosphere/FEQ turned off and the soundstage suffered. Not that the soundstage was bad but it REALLY shines with the SR technology engaged. I highly recommend you try SR with Tekton’s new tweeter array. SUMMARY Tekton Design’s Impact Monitors do very little, if anything wrong and enter the realm of unbelievable value when you consider their price of $1,800 ($2,100 with upgraded parts) delivered! (If you want to see pics I've posted them in my System page) |
Thanks Kenny. Thats right, Eric shows the specs on his website as:
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@david_ten - Thanks. I’m in North Carolina and was honkering-down for the tropical storm this weekend so I had some spare-time to work on this review. As to liking the higher powered amps a little more, I guess that is turning into a personal bias of mine. I have a pair of 100db horns and listen to SET but it just seems that extra power fully fleshs-out the sound on most speakers. That’s obviously a big generalization but that’s where I’m at for now. I continue to tweek the Impact Monitors and I’m getting better and better sound. But, I go through a lot of equipment so I wouldn’t be surprised if I own a pair of Double Impacts (or higher) at some point. Let’s stay in touch. |
@danoroo - "I listen to a lot of rock music at fairly loud SPLs. The 2.7s are slightly more sensitive and the 8" drivers should offer more impact in the lower mid/upper bass region. Also the the tweeter in the 40.5" tall Enzos is at perfect ear level in my room. I'll give you guys my opinion of these speakers after I've evaluated them for a few days. I'll have the luxury of comparing them side by side with the Usher Dancer Mini One DMDs I'm using now." What are your impressions of the Enzo 2.7s? |
@soundermn - I think you are right. From what I can tell a number of the new Tekton speakers have had changes in their components over the life of the speaker. Some of them are announced and others aren't. I would just clarify with Eric when placing your order. I wouldn't think that's a reason not to buy unless you are stuck on one driver over another. |
@danoroo - Thanks for the great review! I was surprised by your use of classical music. Based on your previous posts I thought we were going to hear a lot about rock and SPLs. You think a subwoofer is needed or are the dual 8” woofers sufficient? The specs show 40hz but that doesnt seem right - not low enough. My Impact Monitors are also rated at 40Hz but they only have 6.5” drivers. The Electrons have dual 6” drivers and are specified at 30hz on the bottom end. So all that is a little confusing to me. Since they are front ported did you try them close to the front wall? What did you use for an amp? Thanks again. |
Thought I'd pass along this assessment of the Impact Monitors found on the Audiomatters blog: "The monitors delivered.....tremendous body and detail, and provide stiff opposition to many other monitors at the $2k price point. I could easily see a great music system being built around them." http://audiomatters.blogspot.com/2017/10/rmaf-2017-part-ii.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium... |
Here is a rave "first impression" of the Impact Monitors: Jason Victor Serinus of Stereophile : https://www.stereophile.com/content/jvs-runs-out-clever-titles-day-three-continues |
Here is another rave "first impression" of Tekton’s tweeter array. Read this article carefully. I’m really starting to think the Impact Monitors with a subwoofer is the way to go for now. If I decide to go up Tekton’s line I hope Eric comes out with a powered woofer version of the DIs based on perhaps a direct servo like the Rythmik. Thoughts? http://v2.stereotimes.com/post/rmaf-2017-page-4 "The Tekton Double Impact loudspeakers ($3k), driven by Parasound mono amps produced a sound that was quite remarkable from the midrange up. The bass was somewhat too weighty for this typical shoe-box shaped hotel room. Despite the woofers exaggerating from time to time (depending on the music), the midrange and top-end was simply superb........This was my first-time encounter with this smaller model as I do have the Double Impacts in-house for review (stay tuned), but I must admit, that as much as LOVE the Double Impacts, I can see where a lot of small apartment dwellers will go bananas over this more petite Impact Monitor version. The Impact's speed, dynamic dexterity, transparency and overall musicality coupled to its amazingly low asking price, makes it among the best deals in audio period. REGARDLESS OF PRICE." |
Here is another one! https://www.stereophile.com/content/herbs-rocky-mountain-coda "It was not subtle. The $1800 Tekton Impact Monitors were doing it all: singing, drumming, shaking the air, drawing me in, and making every CD or LP pure pleasure to listen to. A little soft…but not too soft. Imagine a gentle but guiding touch with a most perfect sparkle—and then firm and impactful when necessary." |
@giantsalami - "I have the monitors with 2 REL subs and love it." Nice! The sound of these monitors when used with a powered sub(s) really is something special. I’ve thought about going with stereo RELs as well. @stfoth - Agreed. Not a big deal on the $200 price increase (don’t blame him I guess based on the crazy good reviews from RMAF) but if Eric took away the upgrade option that doesn’t make sense since I’m sure he was making a decent profit off it. |
I went back and re-read the "first impressions" from RMAF regarding the Impact Monitors. I don't know why I didn't quote from Stereophile previously but I thought I would now: "The Tekton monitors, in this excellent system, blew me away. "What does 'blew me away' mean?" John Atkinson would surely ask. Well, for starters, the sense of three-dimensionality on my CD of Lou Harrison's Violin Concerto was astoundingly good, and the impact and color of his wacky assortment of percussion were simply superb. Soundstaging width, height, and depth in the nearfield were tremendous, with the computer-generated/symphonic music by Mason Bates, recorded by Jack Vad and released on SACD by San Francisco Symphony, astounding in its depiction of particles whirling back and forth in a Fermi particle accelerator. In addition, the speakers totally disappeared on a Michael Hedges LP, and the sound was extremely smooth. Richard Schram of Parasound contacted Tekton to arrange a joint demo after his friend, Warner Bros. Records VP Michael Howe, told him that he uses both Parasound and Tekton equipment in his studio. This was wise move on Richard's part, because the Parasound–Tekton pairing sounds stupidly good. And not just for the price. It sounds STUPIDLY GOOD, period. Yes, I'm resorting to capitals, because I want you to take notice. If you can afford this system, you must hear it. Its sound, at least during my admittedly brief audition, far surpassed any number of systems costing way more. A notable achievement, worthy of both review and acclaim." |
@stfoth - I tried mine with some low powered tube amps and a Class A solid state amp. Frankly, I don’t think 8 watts or less is not enough for these speakers. I’m sure they would sound fine but it won’t get you what these speakers are capable of in the lower midrange and bass. I ended-up using my 200 watt tube monoblocks. (Its possible a powered sub that reaches up to 100Hz or so may work-out with a low powered amp) |
@lula - I think any solid stand that places the middle tweeter at ear height will work. I now have mine on the Rythmik subs but had to add some wood platforms and Herbies feet to get the monitors to proper height. I've never heard the ML Dynamo 700 sub (I don't think) I'm sure it will be fine and at least, worth a try. |
@jayctoy (Turla) - always great to get confirmation from your friends! We had some non-audiophile friends over this past weekend. I ended-up doing some analog v. vinyl comparisons for them. I literally had to pull a couple of people away from the listening seat so others could take a listen. I finally left them in there and went back to the party. ha,ha. |
Bon - yeah not surprised he liked them. To me, the Impact Monitors (especially at the current sale price) are the way to go in the current Tekton line-up. Right now, Eric’s designs seem to be in a constant state of flux so it’s good to not spend too much until things settle down a little bit. With the Impact Monitors you get the tweeter array and if you add a powered sub you’ve got a truly high-end system. Plus they are easy to ship so if you don’t like them it’s easy to send them back. |
@snapsc - For me, soundstage is one of the most impact parts of stereo playback. If your music sounds like it’s all coming from the same general area then you know it’s not right. If the Impact Monitors are set-up correctly music comes from behind, to the sides, in-between and in-front of them. They basically disappear. You can mess this up by pushing them too close to the front wall, side walls or even too close to each other. I think it’s the unique character of the tweeter array that allows this to happen so well. |
@snapsc - It’s funny you ask that! How the new Diana Krall album was recorded has been driving me crazy! At times, her piano sits in the right channel with the keyboard running front to back. On other cuts it stretches from the right channel all the way to the left channel. On yet another cut it’s front and center and extends back. What is going? I finally realized they are either moving the piano, the mic or both. So I guess that’s your answer. The Impact Monitors always tell me what’s going on. The tone and texture of the piano is spot-on. Years ago I had a pair of Magnepan IIIcs in a much bigger room. The presentation was “bigger” as in sure size but the problem was the lower midrange and bass. I don’t remember from the Maggie’s getting the weight of the piano in the lower registers that I get now. As to break-in, put over a hundred hours on them before making any decisions. But that’s true for any speaker. |
In hopes of keeping this thread alive I just want everyone to know @grannyring (Bill) upgraded the crossovers in my Impact Monitors for me. I’ve included a picture of a completed crossover in my system photos. He got the Jupiter VT caps to fit inside and they sound glorious! They take this speaker to another level. Just shows how good Eric’s design is and Bill's know-how really are! |
@david_ten - thanks for checking out my system. It’s the place I go to decompress. I went with the Impact Monitors after reading the various threads and reviews on the Double Impacts. There seemed to be universal praise of the tweeter array but some conflicting opinions on the bass. Some people thought it was perfect, others thought it was a little weak, some thought it was almost overwhelming, etc. People were using one watt up to hundreds of watts with the Double Impact so it made sense, to me, there were varying opinions on the bass. My overall conclusion was the tweeter array truly is something special and if I could control the quality and output of the bass I’d be in hog-heaven. I’ve owned Salk/Philharmonic speakers and Jim Salk designed a very, very nice high sensitivity monitor around the Seas Exotica drivers. When he decided to go full range with the Exotica he chose something very close to the Rythmik F8s direct servo subs that I’m using. Here is a link: http://www.salksound.com/model.php?model=Exotica+3 I’ve heard these subs in a number of systems, including open baffle, and have always been impressed. Also, aesthetically, the F8s look very nice with the Impact Monitors. So, that’s why I went with those subs. My only concern with this set-up is vibration control since the monitors are sitting on top of the subs. I’m currently using spiked maple platforms with IsoAcoustic pucks between the sub/platform and sub/monitor. They sound very nice but that may be an area I keep messing with. |