TEKTON IMPACT MONITORS

I'm pretty sure @jetter was being facetious.  "All you have is Tannoy Canterbury's"....we ALL wish we could be so unfortunate as to own those wonderful speakers! ;-)

Speakers that present as DIY speakers bring out all the DIY'ers who want to immediately tear them apart, add damping, replace tweeters, build crossovers, build stands, replace parts, etc.... I have honestly never heard of any other speaker brand where the consumers take this approach.  There's clearly a market for everything - it's kind of like the Jeep Wrangler market - let's begin modding this out immediately!  

It's as if they listen to the speaker and are thinking:  "Hmmm....it sounds wonky but the price is cheap.  I bet for a few hundred $ more I could mod this thing out into something sound good for the money.  Plus these massive, empty enclosures give me tons of room to work.  Time to roll up the sleeves!"

@chayro

I’m surprised calling Eric wasn’t the first thing a Tekton customer would instinctively want to do! With every other product, who doesn’t talk to the owner when a question on the product arises???? So bizarre.

It wasn't till it was obvious it was going very bad for the owner of this company that site moderators jumped in and deleted the entire post.

For sure.  In a panic the Bat Signal was activated, nukes were deployed, and the thread was vaporized.  Mission accomplished?

https://i.postimg.cc/vZTWrBSt/Batsignal.jpg

Also the technology is advanced and different enough it is hard to understand.

and this is a selling point? lol

A great piece of sage advice from Robert Harley's book:

"Loudspeaker design relies on a balanced approach, not reliance on some new "wonder" technology that may have been invented by the loudspeaker manufacturer..."

Also Harley states:

"The more a speaker cabinet vibrates, the worse it is."

So be sure to read professional reviews of the speaker's performance in terms of generating unwanted resonance.  If John Atkinson writes something like this when reviewing a speaker it's worth taking note:

"...the enclosure's panels seemed lively when I rapped them with my knuckles. Investigation with an accelerometer found two fairly strong, high-Q resonant modes, at 500 and 617Hz, on the sidewalls, and lower-level modes at the same frequencies on the top and rear panels."

When these types of resonances are present you may find that adding isolation or springs under a speaker may have a more profoundly beneficial impact than otherwise may occur with a well-damped speaker.

@ghasley   Good takeaway summary.  I'm not sure it's meaningful to know what percentage of a speaker's total production is for sale on any given day.  It would be more meaningful to know how many of the speaker owners sold them in less than a year.  Unfortunately that's a stat we will never be able to obtain - although if this forum had a polling feature it would be helpful.  In the meantime we will just rely on anecdotal reports which is fair, and how other info is generally received on all products.  

@rixthetricks A seemingly very fair assessment and a refreshing representation in contrast to a guy who chooses to depict himself as Einstein, assert that Tektons are the best speaker he’s ever heard at any price, and then proclaim:

"almost everyone else is stuck listening to overpriced crap"

all while complaining about name calling in the same breath. Thanks for your pleasant contribution.

No matter how many times knowledgeable members warn of the folly of substituting drivers in speakers, there is always someone who tries it anyway.

A possible solution - don't buy a speaker where you feel like you need to swap out drivers, crossovers, and place it on springs in order for it to sound really good.

Maybe MC work really hard to make the MoAb sing,

I completely believe this to be the case.  In fact I'm nearly certain that Tektons would respond very well to Townshend Seismic Pods (springs) as the cabinets are quite resonant according to Stereophile's measurements.

"Non-self serving"! He fell for it! They all fell for it! Well done, sir!

apparently there are no limits to who MC will throw under the bus. 

Can someone please explain why an entire thread was deleted instead of just the offending post(s)?
Am I allowed to ask this question?

I think you're allowed to ask any reasonable question until a manufacturer threatens legal action.  The mods want no part of that regardless of the frivolity of the claim.

@tvad   edit: "Predominantly" made in the US ;-)  

acknowledging many posts  make mention of being made in USA and specifically NOT in China as a recurring theme.

Agreed @tomcy6 and +1!

I don't believe MC is a shill either and I think his motivations are driven more by a combination of ideology, insecurity, and pure recreational enjoyment of trying to be viewed as "the smartest guy in the room" often by bullying tactics. So why does MC promote just a handful of brands over and over. If you notice there's a pattern in these brands:

1) All made in the USA
2) All small-sized in ownership, typically one-man shops with perhaps a skeletal additional support staff.
3) Products that are priced at the lower tier yet still considered hifi, high-end.
4) The products often do punch slightly above their price and arguably perform better than some over-priced gear.
5) MC often jumps on the bandwagon supporting these products WITHOUT ever hearing them! He obviously supports the construct described above on it's face with some supplementation of reviews he's read.

So what have I synthesized from the above? I think MC is on a bit of a Crusade. I don't think he actually is a shill or receives any kickback from anyone. I think he approaches this as almost a religious pursuit - pouring himself into the support of tiny US-based operations that are priced on the affordable end of hifi and trying to prove that everyone else is wasting their money on much higher priced gear - partly due perhaps to his own inability to afford the higher priced stuff himself but also on his own definition of a value proposition and how humans should be allocating capital. So he paints this narrative that everyone else is getting ripped off to make himself feel better about the gear he has selected while also supporting HIS view of what America is all about. Sadly it disenfranchises everyone who doesn't fit his mold of the proper way to pursue this hobby.

Another thing to point out is that unless things have changed since 2014, even Raven gear is designed in South Korea by SE Han who became a subcontractor to Raven Audio under an agreement that he would design all of the circuits for Raven Audio. Raven Audio subsequently owns the rights to all of the products they make as I understand it as well.

i disagree,true auduophiles are not buying them..

I don't think we should argue over what an audiophile is.  I totally believe audiophiles are buying Tekton Impact monitors.  Really the key is that people are buying these speakers because they feel they deliver good sound at a $2,100 price point.  These are not performing as $10,000 or $30,000 speakers because the market does not see them as such.  If the market saw them as being equivalent to a speaker that sold at many multiples of their price then that's where Eric would price them - because he's not an idiot.  In the realm of consumer or commercial products it's the market that sets the value...not some blowhard with 10,500 posts asserting their value.