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Tekton Design Lore
Category: Speakers
I have owned a pair of Tekton Design Lores for over a month now. To cut to the chase, these are astoundingly good speakers for the money - as in, at $1,000 a pair, perhaps the best value in audiophile speakers I can think of.
The speaker is a bass-reflex floor-stander using some type of pro-audio-source 10" wideband driver (Eminence, I think) with a soft-dome tweeter. I don't recall the frequency-response specs offhand (more later) but, as would be expected from the design, it is in the "high-efficiency" category with a specified sensitivity 98 dB/W/m.
The speaker is very balanced, dynamic, coherent, and has excellent tone. There - that's the summary. In fact, I have around 25x their cost worth of source & electronics in front of them (retail price - not what I paid) and if I had to I could live with them as my last speaker in anything other than a huge room. I think this is due in part to how good they are and also in part to how good really good gear can sound through even modest speakers.
I suppose I need dissect the speakers sonically, as reviews do. Starting with the bass, the low-end is surprisingly extended AND tight. When I saw a picture of the Lore with the two very large bass ports, I admit the first thought I had was that this was going to be a one-note-bass speaker - not at all. And I have them only about 6" from the front wall (in a 16x20 room, with two large openings). The bass pitch definition is very good! I can follow jazz bass lines very easily. For rock, there is just "about" enough reach, but the sound is just a bit light (in this room). Of course, that is absolutely no surprise at all - for rock in my opinion you really need a -3 dB point around 30 Hz or better to get all the music. I would estimate the speaker's in-room -3 dB point to be in the 35-40 Hz range.
Of course, tuning a speaker for bass reach is a matter of math: driver parameters, cabinet type & size, cabinet tuning. I have only a rudimentary understanding of those things but I will say that the designer of this speaker made some very good decisions.
The midrange is very, very good, with the coherence one expects from a widebander but also the lack of peakiness that's still fairly rare. The Zu speakers share this same flat frequency response and very full tonality (and of course use a similar driver). In fact, I do think the Lore sounds quite a bit like the Zu speakers in the midrange. The overall tonal balance is a bit on the warm side.
I was expecting the excellent midrange but not necessarily the very impressive bass performance of this speaker. I also was not necessarily expecting to be as pleased with the treble as I am: it is *very* well-integrated, and delicate, with good extension but never sounding brash. I have to say I prefer the treble integration and overall sonics (certainly possibly just a matter of preference) over that of Zu (I have owned Druid & Definition Mk 2).
Of course the speaker also has the dynamics you'd expect from the design. It's quite dynamic, especially considering the size & driver complement. However, a design with, say, two 10" wideband drivers is quite a bit more dynamic!
What's most important is the overall flavor of a speaker, and this one is almost perfectly balanced and easy to listen to yet does excel in areas like detail and dynamics as well.
I am "between" main speakers now, but, honestly, this speaker is so freaking good - in absolute terms, not just "for the money" - I could live with it for good. In fact, it is seriously making me wonder what the point of far more expensive speakers is. (Please don't judge that statement harshly unless you've heard them!)
I have owned a pair of Tekton Design Lores for over a month now. To cut to the chase, these are astoundingly good speakers for the money - as in, at $1,000 a pair, perhaps the best value in audiophile speakers I can think of.
The speaker is a bass-reflex floor-stander using some type of pro-audio-source 10" wideband driver (Eminence, I think) with a soft-dome tweeter. I don't recall the frequency-response specs offhand (more later) but, as would be expected from the design, it is in the "high-efficiency" category with a specified sensitivity 98 dB/W/m.
The speaker is very balanced, dynamic, coherent, and has excellent tone. There - that's the summary. In fact, I have around 25x their cost worth of source & electronics in front of them (retail price - not what I paid) and if I had to I could live with them as my last speaker in anything other than a huge room. I think this is due in part to how good they are and also in part to how good really good gear can sound through even modest speakers.
I suppose I need dissect the speakers sonically, as reviews do. Starting with the bass, the low-end is surprisingly extended AND tight. When I saw a picture of the Lore with the two very large bass ports, I admit the first thought I had was that this was going to be a one-note-bass speaker - not at all. And I have them only about 6" from the front wall (in a 16x20 room, with two large openings). The bass pitch definition is very good! I can follow jazz bass lines very easily. For rock, there is just "about" enough reach, but the sound is just a bit light (in this room). Of course, that is absolutely no surprise at all - for rock in my opinion you really need a -3 dB point around 30 Hz or better to get all the music. I would estimate the speaker's in-room -3 dB point to be in the 35-40 Hz range.
Of course, tuning a speaker for bass reach is a matter of math: driver parameters, cabinet type & size, cabinet tuning. I have only a rudimentary understanding of those things but I will say that the designer of this speaker made some very good decisions.
The midrange is very, very good, with the coherence one expects from a widebander but also the lack of peakiness that's still fairly rare. The Zu speakers share this same flat frequency response and very full tonality (and of course use a similar driver). In fact, I do think the Lore sounds quite a bit like the Zu speakers in the midrange. The overall tonal balance is a bit on the warm side.
I was expecting the excellent midrange but not necessarily the very impressive bass performance of this speaker. I also was not necessarily expecting to be as pleased with the treble as I am: it is *very* well-integrated, and delicate, with good extension but never sounding brash. I have to say I prefer the treble integration and overall sonics (certainly possibly just a matter of preference) over that of Zu (I have owned Druid & Definition Mk 2).
Of course the speaker also has the dynamics you'd expect from the design. It's quite dynamic, especially considering the size & driver complement. However, a design with, say, two 10" wideband drivers is quite a bit more dynamic!
What's most important is the overall flavor of a speaker, and this one is almost perfectly balanced and easy to listen to yet does excel in areas like detail and dynamics as well.
I am "between" main speakers now, but, honestly, this speaker is so freaking good - in absolute terms, not just "for the money" - I could live with it for good. In fact, it is seriously making me wonder what the point of far more expensive speakers is. (Please don't judge that statement harshly unless you've heard them!)
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So this will be a short version as I have had the speakers for about a week but feel that since they were broken in and I sleep with them on, I have enough data points to start to form a point of view. First let me say my use case is not what I would think is typical for this sort of speaker. I have a Fisher 500c that I did have completely refurbed late last year. This is a bedroom system but I live alone and like to read, then sleep with music on. Sometimes I will wake up and simply listen sometimes its just background but overall I do use the system a good bit and what I get out of it matters. So its not a desktop..... like to watch some youtube vid on it sort of thing. Source is a Logitech squeezebox touch with an MSB 24/96 capable DAC. I have been using a very good pair of Cantus Leasier II speakers from M&K. Lets be honest best case they are 86db although from all that I have read the upgrade in cross over makes them 88/90db.... my read its really more like 87/88 best case. I can say this...... if you want to go vintage then go with something 90db + its just easier. My bedroom rests in a 137 year old house with small bedrooms and old variable width pine floors and stucco wall and ceiling covering over slats. We have upgraded the insulation, wall covering windows, plumbing wiring etc but lets be honest you live in a century plus old home and things are going to rattle. What I missed after years of playing with various old setups was something close to full range sound while not shaking the walls to the point where you were waking up every 15 mins. The systems gets a good steady stream of small acoustic jazz, female vocals and the like. Think Patrica Barber, Cowboy Junkies, and say Dave Getz. will and can firmly admit I have more then once fallen asleep to Pink Floyd or even a bit of CSYN but the basics are all the same. Full range but not to an extreme..... I don't need a peddle organ in my bedroom. If you can push and I do mean really push out a 30-40hrz signal then you are all good with me. If like most mini monitors you fall off the map at 60hrz then lets call it what it is.... I loved my Celestion Sl 600's and the 700's that came after but to be blunt if they hit 60 in a given room I was walkin on sunshine. So to set the stage here I have three systems. I have a pair of ATC 20-2A speakers in a HT setup with a Revel 15a sub and a couple McKie speakers when I want to watch a movie. I have a Proceed AVP mK II hooked up to a Bel Canto EVO 4Mk II with 350wpc going into a pair of Talon Kohrus speakers and then I have the old throw back bedroom system with a fisher, MSB, Logitech Touch, Tekton Lores. So up front let me say I do think the Lores are a game changer. If you don't then you can cut it off here and move on. Are they as accurate as the ATC's....... nope not even in the same ballpark. Are they as smooth and full range as the Talons.... again nope not even close. Are they as dynamic as say the McKies likely not but who cares.... here is what I will say. If you put me in a small to medium room with the goal that I want a full range speaker on a desert Island then I would grab the Tekton Lore's a tube amp and a good source all for less then say 3k and call it a day. What I like. The lore do a good job with tone and timber. Are they the most hyper accurate speaker I have ever heard?....nope. But then again do you want to spend 1k for 90% of what you will get for 10k... up to you. For me it was clear early on as these were going up against speakers in the 10-20k range at current market I would go with the lore. Are they the most accurate speaker I have ever heard again NOPE. you want me to call it out I would take the ATC over the Lore any day of the week if I were looking to pull apart a recording and figure out how to play a part or portion of it... In fact I would call out any ATC if you are a musician and want to listen and then disect the recording. The ATC are the better bet...... but you want to spend 8k or 1k?... up to you. Again with Talon and the like as I have owned most everything from Revel through Paradigm..... they all have what I would call a strong point or position. But overall I would pick the tekton Lore not because its better in any one category but because overall its more musical, efficient and or full ranged then the competition. let me try it this way. I loved the Revel M-20 it was if anything one of the most full range best all round mini monitors I have heard in years. But it is not as efficient, it taxed the tubes I had around the house. The tekton meets 90% of what I got from the Revel and I need not worry about blowin a tube...... More over and I love the service I have from Harmod...... do I really care at about a grand..... or 650.... if you go M lore about service? Don't get me wrong but I paid 2500 for my M-20's and that was used....... I paid just under half that for my tekton's used... but even new you are looking at about half. What do you choose? First off know that this is a bedroom system in a 12x14 room. I will and plan to knock out the main speakers in the 2 channel system and will report back, but early returns seem to say well.... its about a tie with some of the higher end more expensive stuff I have on hand. I am getting real quick and substantive bass at say 30hz with them in my room. Like wise while not the last word in imaging and pinpoint accuracy I would rank them as competitive with the better speakers out there. They flat out kill paradigm and PBS in terms of overall bandwidth range while offering more in terms of extension and flat out musicality. I have heard some say these are sort of middle of the hall speakers and I really take that as an issue. If you listen then I would say the tekton is about where I want to sit. Front to back, side to side its accurate and enjoyable. Its not so much mid hall as it is... well in hall. You hear what is there. Seat me where you will I want to hear what a happened not what some sound engineer determined I should get. End of the day....... I have the ATC's to tell the truth I have the tekton lore's to spin out the yarn. I would encourage you all to give them a listen ... much as I thought it over I do not regret it. |
Hi, I'm new to this! I have had the pleasure of owning my Lore speakers for a year now. With the help of a friend, I have a Denon 5308 receiver that I have hooked up to them . I have a newer Power cord and cables attached. I mostly listen to music through this. It does not have the sound I want. Any suggestions for a price point of 1,500 dollars to put into an amp or integrated amp to make them really sing? I love music just not sure I have been lead in the right direction as far as receiver vs just an amplifier. Looking for suggestions? |
I'd like to weigh in on running the Lores with solid state and what might sound good for $1500 or less. I've had the Lores for 5 years now. My amps have included the Crown XLS2000, Nuprime STA9 and the current amp is the Parasound Halo A23. My current preamp is a Parasound 2100 but I've used a Nuprime DAC9. My current source is an Oppo 103. The combination of the Oppo into the 2100 into the Halo A23 into the Lores produces a massive soundstage...wide and deep with great tone and good balance top to bottom. Very much room dependant, the Lores seem to sound best when out from a rear wall by 2-3 feet. Like any good loudspeaker, they can sound bright or thin depending on placement. And like any good loudspeaker, they will sound better as you feed them with better electronics. And, if you have a really big room, say 5000+ cubic feet, you need a sub for 50hz and below. Here is just one thought about how to spend $1100 for great sound that will cost you minimum depreciation when you are ready to move up. The two links below are for the Parasound equipment I'm currently using...these are not my links but I can vouch for the sound and as I said, when the time comes, the resale loss will be minimal. https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis8f4b4-parasound-2100-classic-phono https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis8g24d-parasound-halo-a23-stereo-power-amplifier-a-23-11876-soli... and if you want to spend a little more for an even better preamp... https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis8fj23-parasound-halo-p-5-solid-state |
Just a further thought...the Lore hasn't had a lot of "formal" reviews...but this one just popped up a few weeks ago. http://wallofsound.ca/audioreviews/tekton-design-lore-2-0-loudspeaker/ Tim Smith does a pretty nice job describing the Lores strengths and weaknesses (which he notes aren't many). He used quite a few mid to high end amps during his review and not unexpectedly, the Lores allowed him to hear the differences in the amps. The biggest risk using a $500 reciever with the Lores poorly placed in the room is that the sound may be a little brittle...but then again, its not the Lores, they are just revealing the truth about the amp and the placement. |
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