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System start-up noise

Happy Super Bowl Sunday,

I have a question about what may be causing some noise my system is producing just after start-up. Please note that all the components involved are always in stand-by. The components involved are a Sonic Frontiers Line 1 preamp, and Parasound JC1 mono amps. The speakers are Triangle Volante 260.I always bring the preamp out of stand-by first, it has a thirty second mute process while powering up. Then I bring the Parasounds out of stand-by, while the Line 1 is in the mute phase.  If I don’t put any music on, I’ll hear a muffled distortion-like noise from one or both channels after about 3-5 minutes of the system sitting idle. The  noise isn’t loud, and has an intermittent quality.  The first time I noticed it I wasn’t paying attention to the stereo, and at first thought a squirrel had gotten into the eaves and was scurrying about.  The noise had that quality of muffled scratchiness. After a few minutes, the noise goes away, and doesn’t return until the next time I bring the system out of stand-by.  I’ve never heard the noise while playing music. The Line 1 has has three pairs of 6922 tubes, could these be the cause?  I bought the unit used, and I have no idea how old the tubes are. 

Thanks in advance for any advice, 
Dave
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jea48
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It could be dirty 6922 tube pin/tube socket contacts in the Line One preamp.
Usually just pulling the tube/s out of the socket and reinstalling it repeatedly a few times will clean the tube pins and tube socket. You can also use rubbing alcohol sparingly on a q tip to clean the tube pins. Even then I would still install the tube, pull it out, and and install it repeatedly a few times to clean the tube socket contacts.

Please note that all the components involved are always in stand-by. The components involved are a Sonic Frontiers Line 1 preamp, and Parasound JC1 mono amps.
Why do you leave the Line One preamp in standby 24/7? Even in standby you are shortening the life of the tubes. The tube filaments are still energized.


Jim


rodman99999
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Some tube equipment companies’, "Standby" practices, keep the gear at half voltage and zero B+.      That avoids thermal shock, at turn on.      Sonic Frontiers doesn’t mention the half voltage thing.      Still; keeping the filaments energized, is supposed to better for the tubes(etc), than a cold start.      Not to mention: warm up, as regards presentation.      You may have a tube, with an internal glitch, which corrects after fully heating.      If the noise only occurs in one channel, try swapping the tubes between channels, one pair at a time, to locate the offender. If in both channels; there’s probably another issue.      I’ve always given my tube gear a few minutes(each piece) to stabilize, before bringing anything else online.
rodman99999
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Perhaps I should have mentioned(regarding that last sentence): still following the standard, source-through-power-amp, turn on sequence.      And- I’d be disposed toward cleaning the tube pins & sockets, first(as advised).       Should that have been, "on line"?
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noromance
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I've heard that sound many times and it's almost always noisy tubes that stabilize when heated up. 
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mijostyn
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I agree with the above that it is a noisy tube. You can pull the tubes clean the pins with 4-0 steel wool and try them again. If the preamp is over  years old I would consider replacing them. The super low noise 6922 from here  http://www.tubeaudiostore.com/tubes.html are the best you can buy. I use them in my ARC phone preamp (which I leave on all the time) They are at least 10 dB quieter than the tubes ARC used.
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mijostyn
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Over 5 years old;)
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